GC: Hello everyone. We're here for another videocast. Once again, Master Gualberto is with us. Thank you, Master, for being here. Today, I'm going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called: "The Contemplative Life." In one passage of this book, Joel Goldsmith makes the following comment: "Always, our salvation lies in this capacity to depersonalize, to live spiritually instead of personally." In this passage, Master, Joel talks about this capacity to depersonalize. Within these topics, can you share your vision about the observer and the observed?
MG: The answer to that question requires a look, a direct seeing or perceiving of ourselves as we are functioning. Unless you directly become aware of how your mind is working, we will remain trapped within a program, a way of observing, without the awareness of what that represents.
We have a way of looking from the perspective of someone who is looking. Our belief, the old belief we have, is that, in looking, there is someone looking: someone exists looking. We firmly believe that we are present as someone who looks, someone who observes, someone who interacts, someone who feels, someone who thinks, someone who speaks. Our belief is the belief in the separation between the observer and the observed, between the thinker having their thoughts, the experiencer living their experiences.
Here, for example, we have someone speaking and someone listening. We have sound and listening. Note that this is very reasonable from the point of view of a superficial view; but, looking directly, within a perspective of reality, every experience is never separate from the one who experiences it. Or it wouldn't be an experience. You can't tell me about an experience you haven't experienced.
Thus, it is the presence of the experience and of someone. This is separation. But what is the reality of experience? The reality of experience is not this separation. The reality of experience consists of experiencing. You cannot separate the one who is in the experience from the experience they are having. These two things, in reality, are one and the same. It is the presence of experiencing.
Thus, from the perspective of reality, life happens like this: within an experiencing. There is no one who is separate from life. Life is an experiencing where there is no "I" and "non-I"; where there is no experiencer and experience; where there is no observer and what one observes. This appears when thought arises telling what it has lived. When you tell me about something you saw, you are telling me about a past experience, a memory, a remembrance, a recollection. This speech is born from thought.
Thought, in us, is the element that creates this separation, that creates this division between the observer and the observed thing, the experiencer and the experience, because what we have present is only the experience. And the experience is in experiencing. One cannot speak of an experience without experiencing. Our constant emphasis consists of this stubborn vision we have of someone who is present being the experiencer, being the thinker, being the observer.
The Truth of a real contact with Life is a contact in experiencing, in observing, in perceiving, in listening, in feeling, but there is no one present in it. Unless thought arises to report something that has been lived; that means, to speak of an experience that thought has recorded, that it has experienced.
Note, Gilson, that this comprehension is fundamental, because it frees you from the illusion that life is separate from you; that the other is separate from you; that a thought, when it arises in your brain, is something separate from you; that a feeling, when it arises in the body, is something separate from you; and that there is this separation between you and this experience. What is present is the experiencing of a feeling, an emotion, a thought, a perception, an observation. But there is no "I," there is no ego.
And why does this become fundamental? This is essential, fundamental, because it liberates, releases the idea of ??someone present, separate from the moment, separate from what is here, at this instant, revealing itself. Be it a memory, a feeling, a sensation, a perception, observation. Contact with Life is in Love, in Peace, in Freedom. But we are unaware of the Truth about Love, Peace, and Freedom when we are living through this separation.
When, as someone, as an entity that separates itself from the present moment, we look at what is being revealed here from the perspective of this observer. In doing so, we like some things and dislike others. We don't know how to deal with life as it happens because we are looking at life from the observer's perspective, naturally making choices. And this sustains, in this separation, conflict, suffering, this liking and disliking, wanting and not wanting.
We don't know how to make direct contact with the present moment, whether it's one of pleasure or pain. Thus, we become slaves to the interpretation that thought gives to that moment. It does this because of the idea that it creates about this thinker. Therefore, for an experience, the experiencer; for a thought, the thinker; for an emotion, the one who feels; for a perception, the one who perceives. And so we are constantly living this illusion: the illusion of separation.
This is what, here on the channel, we have called duality. We have to investigate the truth about non-duality, the Advaita vision, of non-separation. The Reality of Life is non-dual. Truth is non-dual. We cannot have contact with Truth, contact with Reality, from thought. Thought is the basic element of the mind as we know it, of the mind we are living in.
Here, together, investigating this is fundamental to going beyond the mind, beyond thought. And thus, contact with the instant reveals the quality of experiencing Life as it happens, without anyone involved in it. Your Natural State of Reality, of Truth, is this State of Being; In it is present that which God is, that which Love represents, that which Freedom means. Therefore, a mind free from thought is a quality of perceiving, of seeing, of feeling, without the "I," without the ego, without this illusion of separation.
The various conflicts we have are present because of this duality. Is a life free from fear, resentment, bitterness, rancor, pain, and loneliness possible? Is a life free from anxiety, depression, and anguish possible? Your Natural State of Being, non-dual, is Divine Reality, it is contact with that which is outside the ego, outside the "I." This is the presence of observing, perceiving, and feeling directly, without thought and, therefore, without the past.
GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel, who made the following comment: "I suffer a lot from criticism and feel like a failure. How can I get rid of this self-image?"
MG: So, Gilson, the presence of this self-image is the presence of this observer, this thinker. It is the life of the one experiencing. Look, we have the experiencing, but there is not someone to experience it. That someone to experience it, is the experiencer. Getting rid of this self-image is having a direct comprehension, it is having a close, intimate view of this whole process, which is the process of thought. Realizing that thought is the element that, when it arrives, approaches from memory, from the past. Every reference in it, every reference of it, are records of recollections.
We need to realize this directly: that we are having a memory of this person; it is not the person who is here, but the memory, the recollection of what we lived with them, of what we went through. It is the recollection, it is the memory. We need to be aware of this. When you become aware that this resentment, this hurt, this sadness, the presence of this pain that you have when you are in front of this or that person, is just a recollection within you about him or her.
It is essential to have direct contact with this moment of experiencing, without separating yourself from it. When you separate yourself, that's when you create this self-image. Thus, in this self-image, there is the illusion of someone-which is you-and the other, who causes you pain, who causes you hurt, who is creating this state of resentment, sadness, and grief. Direct attention to this reaction eliminates this separation between you and him or you and her. If we don't have this separation, we no longer have the self-image.
That is direct contact with experiencing this state. Then, it dissolves. Now, at this moment, you are no longer feeding the illusion of separation, the illusion of this self-image, of this ego-identity. And, when you no longer feed this because of this attention, this observing, this perceiving, this directly feeling this, it ends.
Gilson, this new vision, this unprecedented perception, this unique clarity is fundamental. The vision of this moment, in this contact with the other, without self-image, is when, in this contact-because there is no longer this separation-there comes the presence of communion. A life without enemies is also a life without friends. A life without loved ones is a life without heartbreaks. A life without friendships and enmities between people I "like" and people I "dislike."
Our real contact with the moment is contact with life as it appears, as it arises. But, in general, we have been cultivating the illusion of a present identity for a long time, which is the person we are. We are living within a pattern of specialness. It is as if every present experience would be for "me." I see myself as the center of events.
Thus, all events must revolve around what "I" want or don't want, what "I" like or don't like, what "I" accept or don't accept. So, "I" live in my choices, desires, preferences, acceptances, and rejections. It is the pattern of psychological behavior in "me" that positions me in life as an element that is the center of events. Thus, our pattern of behavior is that of a conditioned mind, of a brain trapped in this reference pattern.
The reference is the person that "I" am, it is what "I" prefer to feel, "I" prefer to perceive, "I" prefer to choose. This is conditioning. Letting go of this is going beyond the ego, it is going beyond this center that separates itself, for a contact with life without the "I," without the ego. This gives you Real Freedom: A free brain, a free mind, a free heart, to contact with the present moment, in a direct experience of each instant, without the past.
Your true encounter with Truth, your true encounter with Freedom is the encounter with the Divine, it is the encounter with the Self, this is what we are working on with you here: a Life free from the "I," free from the ego, free from this self-image.
GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel, who made the following comment: "Master, is it through mindfulness that we can decondition our mind?"
MG: Gilson, the presence of a gaze at this instant... that is where the answer lies. Looking at this instant requires Attention to what arises here. This Attention eliminates that element that separates itself to make choices, to judge the present moment, to compare what is arising here with something it saw in the past. Thus, we eliminate the illusion of a present identity when we place Attention on our reactions. Therefore, the presence of this Mindfulness, this Attention without choice, this Attention without the past, eliminates the element that arises from the past.
The element that arises from the past is the presence of memory in this form of recollection, which is thought. It is the presence of thought that brings the thinker. This one that emerges as a censor, approving, disapproving, accepting, rejecting, liking, disliking. It becomes fundamental, Gilson, in life, to comprehend ourselves, to comprehend all this movement of thought, which gives structure to this thinker, which is the "I."
Your real contact with the moment is the elimination of the continuity of the past. Our old model, our habitual model of contact with the moment, is based on memories. On a certain level, recognition, the use of memory-that is, of recollections-is fundamental; but on another level, it is something completely problematic, which is producing all kinds of situations, complications, disorder, and suffering.
My contact, for example, with you, is not real when what "I" have about you is something beyond your name and the memory of your face. When "I" bring to this encounter the pleasant and unpleasant memories that "I" lived with you, these memories settle here, in this "I," in this "me." It is the presence of thought that sustains this game of separation between this "me," this "I," and you. In this separation, conflict is established. I am not in direct contact with you at this moment. I am in contact with the memory that "I" have about you. This separates us, divides us.
We have been in this game throughout our lives. All the people you know, you don't just have their name and face, the direct and simple memory of them; you have an image of them, an idea, a mental construct, a model of liking or disliking them. In fact, in this liking or disliking, there is this projection, which is the projection of your own "I," of your own ego within these relations.
Observe the implications of this. We never come into direct contact with him or her. We are always, in this contact, in a separation. Because it is not a real contact; it is a contact between images. People are images. Can we have a life free of images for contact with him or her, without the past? Without his or her past, without the idea, here, of who he or she is. Notice, we are facing an illusion, a construct of thought. Eliminating the psychological model of being someone, of being this "I," this person here... that puts an end to the illusion of the person there.
Our real contact with life is not with people, it is not with images established in us by thought. Our real contact with life is contact with the totality of Life as it is. This includes them. It includes the other. So, this image that we call a person needs to disappear. What there is in life are human beings: he or she, the husband, the wife, the children.
The idea of ??someone being present based on the representations that "I" have is entirely false. It is grounded in this illusory foundation, which is this very "I" here. This "I" does not exist here. This is the great revelation of Life when there is no more illusion. When your Natural State of Being flourishes, the other, Life, events... everything is this one present Reality, the presence of Truth.
Therefore, a Life in Love requires comprehending him or her, discarding the illusion about him or her. However, this begins here, in this Self-awareness, in discarding the illusion of the "I," of the ego itself. This is what we are here, together, deepening for comprehension.
GC: Gratitude, gratitude, Master, our time is over. Gratitude for this videocast. And for you who are watching the videocast to the end and truly wish to live these Truths, you are invited to participate in the intensive weekend meetings that Master Gualberto provides.
These meetings are much deeper than these videos here on YouTube. First, because the Master answers our questions live. And second and much more impactful is that, because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, He shares a field of Presence around Him, a field of Power, Energy, and Grace.
And, in these meetings, we end up being "carried" by this field of Presence of the Master. And, by being carried by Master, in a natural way, without any effort, without practice, and without technique, we enter the Meditative State, silence our minds, and can have a Real Comprehension of the subjects that are discussed here on the channel.
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