You say, “Master, listening to You is never too much.” Yeah! I also think like that, because you all listen to so much nonsense! All talks are nonsense, but at least the ones here point to something not stupid, to something out of this load of rubbish thought creates and produces. The speech born of the Natural State, which is Consciousness, is also Consciousness and, thus, dispels thought’s illusion. This speech is like a thorn you use to remove another thorn out of your foot. You use a very thin needle to remove a thorn from your foot, and the thinner it is, the more "surgical," the more precisely you reach and remove it. If you try to remove a thorn with a cotton swab, you will not succeed.
You may listen to many speeches, read a lot of books, listen to many speakers, panelists, lecturers, including gurus talking about Advaita, about non-duality but, it is just like a “cotton swab” being offered to remove "the thorn from the foot." I think this will not work since you need a thinner needle, a perfect view of where the thorn is located and the ability to reach it in order to remove it. So, put your attention into this speech, as it is not a nonsense. I have been saying my talks are nonsense along all these years, but now I am saying something completely different: they are powerful as they are pervaded of Presence, of Consciousness; they are born of this dimension. They are "needles" that remove "thorns."
So, get your ears ready and your heart open, so that Reality, which is Consciousness, can get there and remove that "thorn." Do you know why illusion is persistent? Because the nature of the egoic mind is to be stubborn, and that stubbornness cannot be easily avoided or stopped. The mind cannot solve this issue as it is not interested in that, as it will not "commit suicide." So, no matter how many words you hear, books you read, how hard you study – since all these things are from the mind’s nature – you will only end up further strengthening the mind. You need to stand before Silence, this Presence, this Consciousness. Only then, you will have a real "needle" to remove this "thorn." The "thorn" is stubborn, difficult to be removed, since to start, it is hard to be detected, found, so that it can be later removed.
The point is that when I say you are not who you believe you are, there inside your head another voice says: “You are wrong. It is me, and I am here listening to you.” However, this is not true since you are not listening to anything; nothing is being said to you. Here is Consciousness dealing with the Consciousness, and trying to fully understand That is another effort of the mind itself, that is, the mind striving for itself. A Sage, who is Consciousness, says this world is an illusion, while in the mind, the idea about that comes from inside your head. How is it for you to hear the world is an illusion? The mind is so limited in its perception that it does not say good things are also part of the illusion.
In the card game, the king and the queen have huge power depending on the kind of the game you are playing. There are several kinds of games where king and queen have great power, but the Ace is even a more powerful card. Something similar happens to your life, as there is always a more powerful thing, but you should not forget everything is nothing but a “game.”
After the "playing cards are kept" inside the "box of the world," where everything is happening, all power disappears, like the power of the playing cards in the deck (king, queen and ace). So, do not mistake yourself for the experience you are seeing in the "game." Life is this Mystery, this Beauty, this Grace – keep That and You will be the “owner of the game.”
You may listen to many speeches, read a lot of books, listen to many speakers, panelists, lecturers, including gurus talking about Advaita, about non-duality but, it is just like a “cotton swab” being offered to remove "the thorn from the foot." I think this will not work since you need a thinner needle, a perfect view of where the thorn is located and the ability to reach it in order to remove it. So, put your attention into this speech, as it is not a nonsense. I have been saying my talks are nonsense along all these years, but now I am saying something completely different: they are powerful as they are pervaded of Presence, of Consciousness; they are born of this dimension. They are "needles" that remove "thorns."
So, get your ears ready and your heart open, so that Reality, which is Consciousness, can get there and remove that "thorn." Do you know why illusion is persistent? Because the nature of the egoic mind is to be stubborn, and that stubbornness cannot be easily avoided or stopped. The mind cannot solve this issue as it is not interested in that, as it will not "commit suicide." So, no matter how many words you hear, books you read, how hard you study – since all these things are from the mind’s nature – you will only end up further strengthening the mind. You need to stand before Silence, this Presence, this Consciousness. Only then, you will have a real "needle" to remove this "thorn." The "thorn" is stubborn, difficult to be removed, since to start, it is hard to be detected, found, so that it can be later removed.
The point is that when I say you are not who you believe you are, there inside your head another voice says: “You are wrong. It is me, and I am here listening to you.” However, this is not true since you are not listening to anything; nothing is being said to you. Here is Consciousness dealing with the Consciousness, and trying to fully understand That is another effort of the mind itself, that is, the mind striving for itself. A Sage, who is Consciousness, says this world is an illusion, while in the mind, the idea about that comes from inside your head. How is it for you to hear the world is an illusion? The mind is so limited in its perception that it does not say good things are also part of the illusion.
In the card game, the king and the queen have huge power depending on the kind of the game you are playing. There are several kinds of games where king and queen have great power, but the Ace is even a more powerful card. Something similar happens to your life, as there is always a more powerful thing, but you should not forget everything is nothing but a “game.”
After the "playing cards are kept" inside the "box of the world," where everything is happening, all power disappears, like the power of the playing cards in the deck (king, queen and ace). So, do not mistake yourself for the experience you are seeing in the "game." Life is this Mystery, this Beauty, this Grace – keep That and You will be the “owner of the game.”
*Online meeting transcription originally held on February 4th, 2020 – First published in Portuguese on October 3rd, 2020. For further information about our meetings,, click here.
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