Satsang is unique since here you are not standing before a theory. You may find theory in books when you listen to a lecturer or classical scholar, someone who knows... This is not what happens here.
So, what makes Satsang unique is that you do not come to learn something from someone. There is nothing to learn here. In a way, this scares you, because if we are listening to a speech and it is not to learn anything, what would be the use of being here after all? When someone gives you an address, the person is just giving you information about how to get to a certain place. That person is not teaching you something, but rather showing you how to get to a certain place. You might even have difficulties after that, but that is another thing! What you are going to do to get to that place is another thing!
Satsang gives you information, but it does not give you knowledge. In other words: Satsang informs you but does not give you knowledge theory of what you are being informed.
We seem to come across a very subtle line here: you cannot mistake theory for information, for direction. Can you see the difference? Here, the goal is not theory, but rather the viewpoint of Reality. Truth does not depend on theory, concept, belief. Actually, when there is theory, concepts and beliefs, there is no Truth, there is just theory, concepts and beliefs indeed.
Here, we deal with Reality Awakening. Whereas it is not about knowledge, This is not learnable. You are not here to learn, since a work like this does not give you knowledge. The Natural State of Being is not the result of knowledge. It is the result of Awakening! We "Awaken to This."
You realize That by an act of Grace, as a result of the blossoming of your Natural State. Your Natural State is innate. So, once again: you have nothing to learn. It is just the Awakening indeed.
A banana tree does not learn to give bananas: that is innate. It is only what that tree can do. It is just what is in the tree to be done! A mango tree will not learn to give mangos: that is innate! It is already there!
Enlightenment, Awakening, God Realization – I do not know what you want to call This – it is just the blossoming of your Natural State. You are not a person, although you see yourself like this, since you have been led to believe that. You have been conditioned to feel and think that way. This psychophysical entity, mind-body, is not you. This is just an expression of the thought phenomenon. You are Consciousness. You are the Ultimate Reality! You do not have a body. You do not have a mind. You are not a psychophysical phenomenon. You are neither the body nor the mind. You are what You are! This cannot be learned. This is what is!
Participant: What about all the things that I live, that we are living?
Marcos Gualberto: When you use these pronouns, what do you mean by that? You are giving to this body, this mind, this psychophysical mechanism, this thought expression, a quality of being – of being a real entity and separate from every manifestation, from every phenomenon, which is not Real. Thought is a phenomenon like any other, just like the body.
You use the pronoun "me," give it a name, like Carlos, João, José, Maria, and so on, but that's just a thought. A thought naming itself, talking about itself, using language expressions to create, in a fictitious and imaginary way, a present entity. There is nobody in this! There is no entity present in this! There is nothing in thought but thought.
This is all a little weird, isn't it? What I am saying is that you are not as real as you believe you are.
Participant: What about my feelings?
Marcos Gualberto: Your feeling is attached to this idea of "me." But the feeling itself is only part of the body phenomenon. It is the body that feels, just like it is the mind that thinks.
Your confusion, your suffering, any disturbance you are experiencing right now, is being upheld in this conclusion – of being someone thinking, feeling, doing, getting rid of something, losing friends, losing money, losing family, losing loved ones to Coronavirus, all these kinds of things.
All this lies in thought's fixation. It is thought telling stories, from thought to itself, and you trust it, you mistake yourself for it, you get disturbed, disoriented and suffer.
Once you can, at least, start questioning what you think and what you feel, and the straightforward relations attached to that thinking and feeling, there is a tremendous relief. At first, you begin to feel tremendous freedom since you are no longer attached to things, places, people, that is, thoughts... The world is just a thought!
Are all of you here in the room, sure that you are your grandparents' descendants? Your great-grandparents' descendants? Did you meet your great-great-grandfather? Does anyone in the room know their great-great-grandfather? Your great-great-grandfather is a thought. I talked about him and then he appeared (in your mind). You do not have a great-great-grandfather, a great-grandfather, a grandfather, a mother, a father, a body. What you have is thought, thoughts about these things. You do not have a right foot on your leg. You need thought to remember it.
That's your world – your whole world is in thoughts! When a thought arises, the world arises. Outside of thought, You remain as pure Consciousness, without great-great-grandfather, grandfather, great-grandfather, father, mother, and body.
Imagine what would happen to you if, all of a sudden, you found yourself without thought. Which direction would your house be in? Huh? If you were without thought, who would your husband or wife be? Without thought, what would your name be? Would you have a name? How would the world look to you then? How would you see the world without thought? What would you call this object that you are sitting on right now, without thought? Can you see? Your world is all thought-based.
What about emotions? What is this emotion you feel? What would you call this emotion without thought? Listen to this calmly... Emotions need thought. This neurophysiological sensation, without thought, is just a neurophysiological sensation. So, what you call emotion is also a thought.
What I am trying to show you is that you have certainties, and they are all based on thought. All of this is false! What you feel about someone and what someone represents to that "you" are false, since "you" are not real. Your world is mental, it is just a thought. If you are free from that, you find out your Divine State, free from the illusion of that sense of separation.
The problem with thought is that it paralyzes you, in every way. Thought puts you in a condition of limitation, causing a "reality" for you, a "make-believe." So, you find this and stay within this limitation.
So, there is no Truth since there is no Freedom. If there is no Truth or Freedom, there cannot be Happiness, and Love remains too far from that. This is the illusion of ignorance – because there is no ignorance, just illusion.
Your Natural State is one of pure Intelligence, pure Consciousness, Freedom, Happiness and Love. It is your Being! But this ignorance, which is an illusion, is assumed in place of Reality, and thought is what is creating this.
Your world is created by thought, and it is important the world have problems, because, in this way, thought can move in this "make-believe" to solve them. This causes a "person" to exist, an "entity" to be present. This is the ego's life, this sense of separation, this sense of "me." You must be somebody!
Actually, thought itself is not the problem, but rather not being aware of the thought presence just as a phenomenon. This becomes a problem. When you don't pay proper attention to thoughts, you end up putting the illusion of identity present in it. Then, all the confusion of the sense of "me," of the sense of separation, arises.
If you do not find out thought is harmless – once it is indeed harmless – it becomes quite offensive. It becomes the creator of your private world. So, the problem is not the story of a great-grandfather, a great-great-grandfather, a grandmother, a mother, a father, a husband, or a boyfriend. The problem is to not see the phenomenon as a phenomenon, the thought as a thought. The problem is to take thought too seriously. The result of that: desire, fears, attachments.
However, when thought no longer matters to you, you can play with it. You will no longer extract from thought the illusion of a present identity. When you are free from thought, thought is no longer the problem, the word itself is no longer the problem.
You may even use the pronoun "I" and have no identity present. You may say "my" boyfriend, "my" wife, "my" child, "my" husband, "my" house, "my" car, but there will be no identifying content present behind expressions like these, since there is no longer the illusion of the possessor. There is no longer the illusion of an identity present to possess this or to be possessed by that.
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