November 19, 2021

The adventure of going beyond the “person”

Satsang is not a relationship between two people. It is an adventure for you to find out what abandoning the "person" means. When you go climbing, you have to pay the price to get to the top. Here, the price is to go beyond the person, beyond this personhood sense.

So, we are talking about an adventure whose price is the surrender, the abandonment of the "sense of a person." If you are willing to pay this price, there will be a contact between us. Then, you will be able to ask questions, get closer, look at this closely, to investigate this. This way, there will be a contact, and not a relationship.

Here, we have some difficulties while using the expression "abandoning the person." Actually, I know person will not abandon him or herself. Personality will never be able to give up itself. The only way for it to become possible is the understanding of the illusion "person" is. So, it is not just saying "I want to abandon the person" for this to come true, since you are the very person saying you will abandon the person.

One of the basic things in human beings is the lie: you are born lying, you grow up lying, you become a child, a teenager, a young person, and you are constantly lying. Then, you become an adult, grow old and keep on lying. And you die in the lie! Therefore, you will not tell the truth to yourself. You will say, "I want to give up," but in fact, you do not want to give up.

The difference between a meeting like this and a therapy meeting is that in therapy you will look for help to be a better person, and here the proposal is to abandon the person. As the person will not give up and will lie about it, Satsang is not for someone looking for help to improve as a person. But therapy, yes.

Self-Realization is indeed the end of conflict, the end of suffering, but This has the price of the end of lying. What human beings want is not to stop suffering, but rather to suffer less. That is why people look for help in therapies and, in fact, therapy helps. It is possible to manage well this issue of suffering. But Satsang is the association with the Truth, which is the end of the mistake, the end of lying and the end of this set of beliefs you have about who you are, about what others are, about what life is. So, here the question is "who am I?"

This inclination towards the Truth is the inclination for Wisdom, which is Intelligence, the Intelligence of not suffering anymore. This Knowledge about Yourself, this Vision of the Truth about who You are, is the basis of Wisdom. So, Self-knowledge, here, is not what they say out there. Self-knowledge means abandoning the "sense of person," which is the basis of Wisdom, the basis of Intelligence, and when there is Intelligence, Love is present and suffering ends.

Generally, people spend their whole lives in a silly, mediocre way, resigned to the prevailing pattern of confusion, disorder, fear, desire, jealousy, envy, and so on. They are born, grow, live and die like this. They never ask themselves if it is possible to live differently, intelligently, without conflict, without suffering, with the real Consciousness of the Divine Presence controlling everything, doing everything in Its way. They never ask "who is really in control of everything?" or "what is this that governs all things?" On the contrary, people arrogantly seek their own way. They firmly believe they can be happy in their choices, making their decisions. This is not the way the Sage, who is living in this world with Intelligence, lives. That is why Satsang, this space here, is unique!

This climbing, which aims for the top – and, here, the top is the end of this "sense of person" with all the conflicts that this represents – requires surrender, a commitment to deep honesty, and loyalty to oneself. What is the nature of the mind? Who are you? What are your choices? What have you really done? Who is this "me" doing things, deciding, solving, and making things happen? Is this real? Here we go on our climbing!

Personality is not real, but who is willing to pay the price to be sure about this? So far, you are not sure about this, but you have the arrogance of being certain, many forms of certainties, and one of them is the certainty you are a person; and I assure you: personality is not real! That sense of person is a fraud! You will never give up this!

Without the Comprehension, this abandonment is impossible! This Comprehension is the price, and not an understanding. This is like driving a car. You do not drive a car by reading a book on how to drive it. That will not make you a driver. When you go to a driving school, do you take lessons in traffic laws, take a theoretical test, and immediately you have your driver's license? No, that's not the way to become a driver. A driver is not a theory, but a vehicle driver who needs to be approved in a practical test.

You can decide to become a pilot and take an online course. Does it happen like this in civil or military aviation? No. This requires many hours of flight before you can take someone with your little plane somewhere.

Living in Happiness is also something like this. You understand the Truth about Yourself, you stop lying, and then God shows Himself. You know yourself and then you know God. And if you know God, you know everything is right. You know there is nothing wrong going on anywhere. This represents Peace, Freedom, and Happiness.

People come to me and say "I want peace." They talk as if they do not have Peace, as if it is something they have to receive from somewhere, and that is not true. Peace is not something you receive from somewhere. It is not something you are lacking. Peace is your Divine Nature! Your Being is Love, Peace, Truth, Intelligence! So, This is not missing. You just do not know who You are. You are entangled with thoughts, with stories this "sense of person" has created and upheld within you for all these years, a cultural thing that you have learned. These things are learned! We learn to be unhappy, to cling to conclusions, beliefs, material goals, desires... Human beings are strongly prone to quickly learn all the bad things. Once again this shows to be true: You have learned to be a person!

Look at your children, your grandchildren... They are repeating your ambition, your envy, your bad customs, your bad habits, your vices. You have already learned from your parents, your parents have already learned from your grandparents, and we "play the show" that way. It is a performance without rhythm, without tune, without arrangement. So, you come to me and say "I want peace," and I say to you: "This is present when you are in your Being." If you remain in the world, you have no Peace. If you remain in the mind, you have no Peace. If you remain like your parents, society, culture, psychologically speaking, you have no Peace, since there is no Peace in culture, there is no Peace in your parents, there is no Peace in the world!

Peace is inside you. You find out who You are, accept This and "blow up" the world! That's right: you have to "blow up" the world, this confusing world of yours! Comprehension places a bomb on the world and blows it up. Leave the world alone and you will have Peace! In other words, do not meddle with the world, do not meddle with other people's lives, do not meddle with your own life, since you do not have a life of your own. This is a lie, an illusion.

The Sage has Peace, truly. The one who lives in God has Peace. The holy man has Peace, the holy woman has Peace, since they do not live in lies. They do not cultivate confusion, suffering. They do not live in the world. The Sage does not live in the world. The Sage lives in his Being. The Sage's world has already blown up. The Sage is not concerned with what happens in the world.

For example: are you involved in political, economic, social issues? Do you beat the drum for causes of injustice and justice? This is all because you live in the world. The Sage does not live in the world. This world for him has already ended, has already concluded, has already blown up! This is a dream. It has no reality for him.

The Sage has nothing to defend or attack anymore. The Sage is already dead to this world. The Sage is worthless to this world. You cannot say to a Realized Being, "Can you help me fix this or that issue?" You will not be able to count on him, he is "alienated"! The Sage is not only alienated from Life, but he is alienated from the illusion of what life is. People who attack or defend, who want to fix, adjust or resolve issues, are from the world, they are in the world… they are people!

Does it scare you? It is scary because you like that party, that football club, that militancy, you like government A, government B… Yes, I know, you do. People like things. They just do not know what Love is, and that is why they always like things. When there is Love, there is no "liking." When there is Love, you are Happy. When there is Love, you are Peace. When there is Love, you are free from that "liking" and "disliking." There is no dependency. There is no fear. There is no suffering. It is typical of a person to be unhappy, to like and dislike, want and not want, make decisions and make choices, want to fix others, fix the world, fix oneself. You cannot fix yourself, you may "improve." I love therapists, I love doctors, but they do not give health, they make adjustments, they help in some way. There is no cure for the person! Person may get better but not cured.

Mind has no cure. Ego has no cure! The end of the "sense of person" is the final solution, and I'll repeat it once more: the person will not give up! The person is not real but sure it exists. The person will not pay the price. The person will not give up on him or herself. If this word and this contact we have here are indeed reaching you on a level quite far from the "person," then it is on this level of pure Comprehension. The only thing that can make the "person" disappear is Comprehension, the pure and straightforward Understanding of the uselessness of that belief. This reaches you outside that "sense of person." It is not in the "person" that This is seen, but rather outside of the "person."

You need to come to an absolute, firm, resolute Understanding that "person" does not exist. This is not a common understanding; it has to be a Comprehension! "Person" does not exist. The "sense of personhood" is not real. This way, you will know directly what it means to no longer identify with yourself, which means no longer identifying with the "sense of personhood," including this will to improve.

Weak people want to make improvements, some tweaks, to fix some parts when everything else is ruined. Those who come closer to God know they are going to "die," and it seems that it is the weak ones who resist. "Dying" in God is Awakening to the Truth there is no point in having just one part fine. This "death" is Integral Life!

*Online meeting transcription originally held on February 27th, 2021. First published in Portuguese on April 2nd, 2021. For further information about our meetings, please click here.

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