June 12, 2025

Joel Goldsmith | The Thunder of Silence | The Conditioned Mind and the Free Mind | Marcos Gualberto

GC: Hello, everyone! We are here for another videocast. Once again, Master Gualberto is here with us. Thank you, Master, for being here. Today I am going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called "The Thunder of Silence." In an excerpt from this book, Master, Joel makes the following comment: "When you know the Truth, this Truth will free you from all the conditions of the carnal mind, that means, from all situations or circumstances conditioned by good and evil." Well, Master, in this excerpt, Joel comments on the carnal mind, on the human mind. Can the Master share his vision on what the conditioned mind is and what a free mind is?

MG: A real answer to this requires each of us to look directly at what is happening inside each of us. Note that our way of responding to this present moment, when we are asked, is invariably always from the perspective of thought. And this model of thought that we have for the response to life at this moment is the model of a thought that comes from the past, which is the result of experiences that we have gone through. There is a way of responding to life based on memory, based on these remembrances. These recollections, remembrances, memories are experiences stored within us in the form of thought. The point is that responding to life at this moment, responding in a complete way, in a true, real way, requires the presence of a vision of what is really important and necessary here at this moment, and thought does not do that. Thought comes with a ready-made answer, with an answer that comes from the past, that comes from memory.

So, we are responding to the present moment based on the past, and we respond because the mind, as it is happening at this moment, is programmed to respond. This programming is conditioning.

We live within a pattern of mental, psychological conditioning. We have a way of sitting, we have a way of eating, we have a way of walking. Each person walks in a different way. At the table, one behaves in a typical, characteristic way. This has to do with our body's conditioning, with the way we deal with the experiences of the moment, with life as it is happening. At this level, this physical conditioning of this body is reasonable, but as human beings, we are living a conflicting, distressing, burdened, heavy life, full of problems of various kinds, due to another quality of conditioning, totally dysfunctional and unnecessary, which is this conditioning of the mind, which is this psychological conditioning. The way you deal with your husband, with your wife, with your family, the way you deal with yourself, this is causing stress, it is causing division, it is causing confusion. And this behavior, in us, is born from thought, from these mental postures.

Just as we have physical repertoires, we have mental repertoires. We are constantly responding to life from these postures, these mental postures. We do not know how to deal with the present moment, because we do not know how to deal with ourselves. The external confusion is just an externalized extension of this internal confusion, which is within each one of us due to the presence of this chaotic movement, which is the movement of thought. We are living in the past or in the future. This is the form of the person, this is the form of the "I." This sense of personality present is due to this form of consciousness, which we recognize present in each one of us. This is happening in this way because the mind is not free.

You ask: "What is the free mind?" It is the mind that is no longer trapped in this pattern. How can we, in life, assume the Truth of That which we are, beyond this model of being that we present, of the model of person, of personality, of consciousness that we express in our relations, while we continue to be trapped within this pattern of thought, while we are trapped within this model, which is the model of this culture, which is the model of this society, which is the model of this world? We need to go beyond this conditioning to assume the Truth of God. The Truth of God is the Truth of your Being, of your Essential Nature, of your Divine Nature. This encounter with Reality requires the discarding of the truth that we express at this moment. There are two things here: there is the truth that we express, what we express to be, what we demonstrate to be, what we appear to be, and there is a Reality present, beyond all of this. This Reality only has space when the mind becomes silent, when it becomes still, when it undergoes a profound and radical change, when we completely strip ourselves of this condition of egoic consciousness, of conditioned mind. That is why it is essential to know ourselves, to know what is happening to us. It is this awareness of ourselves, it is this vision of the truth that we express, it is the awareness of this that brings about the discarding of this condition for the emergence of Reality. Any idea or belief about who we are is still part of the old thinking, still part of this programming, still part of this conditioning.

We are always responding from memory. Thus, expressions of the truth of this "I," this ego, are present all the time. When you feel hurt, angry, sad, upset, anxious, worried, depressed. These are just some of the countless states that we know, which are egoic states, states of this consciousness, which is the consciousness of the "I." Our attachments, jealousy, envy. All these types of things represent internal psychological states of conditioning. It is the way in which the truth of the "I," of the ego, expresses itself. Is there a Reality, as we are placing it here? Yes, we have been addressing it, investigating this, deepening this here, with you, but I say again: the idea, the belief, the concept about this does not solve it. What brings us closer to this Real Vision is the awareness of Meditation. This awareness of Meditation requires the comprehension of Self-awareness. There is no separation between Self-awareness and approaching the Truth about Meditation.

We have a playlist here on the channel: "Real Meditation in Practice" and "The Truth of Self-awareness." There is another playlist: "How to learn about Self-awareness?" It is when we get closer to ourselves, when we look at what this "I" represents, this model of thought expresses, that we begin to realize the reality of this conditioned mind, because the mind becomes quiet and this model of conditioning is seen. What we call the conditioned mind is just this model of how the mind is functioning, how this conditioning is processed, due to thought, feeling, emotion. The end of this condition is the beginning, it is the emergence, it is the appearance of something indescribable, of something unnameable, which is Divine Reality. This is the truth of approaching a free mind, free from the "I," free from the ego, free from this conditioning.

GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel. Tatiana makes the following comment and asks: "I don't want anything anymore. How do I let go of this bag of thoughts?"

MG: Letting go of this "bag of thoughts" requires understanding this movement of conditioning. Our problem is not thoughts; we need thought in a practical way, for practical matters in life. Your name is a thought. Your address is a thought. Your professional knowledge is present because of thought. So, at this level, thought is important and necessary.

The problem arises when the old model of thought is being processed in a conditioned way, in this conditioned mind, in this conditioned brain, in this conditioned intellect. This model of thought is thought that gives rise to this sense of "I," this egoic sense. So, discarding this model, which is the model of conditioned thought. It is this model of thought that we need to get rid of.

I have called this form of thought "psychological thought." It is the psychological memory of the "I," it is the pattern of thought, which is knowledge, experience, memory, that gives structure to the sense of an ego-identity.

So, getting rid of thought is getting rid of the thinker, the experiencer. It is getting rid of this structure, which is the structure of this ego-identity, something that is always repeating itself. All the experiences we go through, thought records them in its old memory format, and this sense of a thinker behind thought is maintaining its continuity. This is the story of the "I," it is the story of the ego.

It is the approach of this look at our reactions, it is the discovery of the truth about how thought in us is processed that gives us a clear vision of the truth about this, for the end of thought. Can we have a free mind, a free brain, a free intellect? Can we live life free of the past, responding to this moment without the images, beliefs, conclusions, opinions, ideas that come from the past? This is what we are working on here with you.

Participating in these online meetings on the weekends is essential! In-person meetings, retreats... all of this is part of this real work that is necessary in this life, for the end of this psychological condition.

GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel. Idalina makes the following comment and asks: "Congratulations, I loved it! I'm one of those people, I've been suffering for years from too many thoughts. I can't change, I'm too emotional. How can I change?"

MG: Yes, Gilson, this change is essential! Otherwise, we will always be continuing with this model of thought. This model of thought, this old model of thought, this condition of thought, which carries sensation, feeling, emotion, all this story from the past, this old pattern of envy, jealousy, control, possession, fear, anger, worries. All of this is the presence of suffering. This is the condition of this sense of "I," this egoic sense.

The presence of suffering causes us to be alert. Note that, when everything is fine or everything is going well, you have no alertness. When something gets complicated, difficult, and some form of suffering arrives, then the warning goes off that something is not right.

Human beings live their days completely unconsciously. Their restless, chatty, repetitive, continuous model of thought, loaded with beliefs, concepts, prejudices, all of this passes through us unnoticed. We are, in general, unaware of this entire process of egoic consciousness, of consciousness of "I," of a restless mind. But when a situation arises and suffering arises, at that moment we realize, and at that moment we ask ourselves: "Is there something beyond all of this? Beyond this condition of suffering that I find myself in?" Because when everything is fine, you don't ask yourself; but when you realize that you no longer have control and that suffering is present, and all the old escape routes are no longer working, you realize that you need to discover something beyond all of this.

Life is constantly challenging us. The triggers, the challenges, the proposals, what happens in this moment, is something that always presents itself as an opportunity for us to give a response to life. If it is inadequate, suffering is present; if it is in line with life, something new is present.

We do not know the Truth about Life, we do not know the Truth about ourselves. When you say: "I have suffered for years due to excessive thoughts" - comprehending the Truth about yourself is going beyond thoughts, it is going beyond this old condition of identity of the "I," where suffering is present.

Thought is something practical, it is something functional. At a certain level, it is necessary - as we just said in one of these answers - but, at a psychological level, all this occupation with thoughts, all this pattern of behavior, where there is all this internal restlessness, where the illusion of someone here, who came from the past, is here now and moving towards the future is constantly being repeated. Thought is processed like this, this is how it happens inside each one of us.

Unsatisfied with the present moment, this form of thought, this pattern of thought, is running fast inside each one of us, projecting itself into the imagination of a future where it will be happy. Thus, thought creates an identity, which is the "I." The feeling you have is of being someone who came from the past, is here in the present moment and moving towards the future, and who needs to be happy in the future.

This is how thought is processed inside each one of us. It lives within this restlessness, generating this stress, this anxiety. It is always in this agitation, and this way in which thought is processed, based on this illusory identity - which is the thinker -, due to this separation between thought and the thinker, this illusion of time is always established, to achieve happiness one day, to achieve peace one day, freedom one day, while suffering is present for this thinker at this moment, this restlessness, this existential void, this absence of Peace, Freedom, Bliss... This will never be attained by thought, because it is exactly the presence of thought that favors this psychological condition of mental suffering, of psychic suffering.

What is the truth about life? What is the truth about this "me"? Who am "I"? We have stated here, many times, to you, that there is a present Reality. This Reality is not the truth of what you are, in what you present yourself to be, in what you demonstrate to be. This is the truth of the "I," this is the truth of the person, whereas there is a Reality here, and this Reality is beyond thought, beyond feeling, beyond emotion, beyond this format of being someone. This Reality is the Reality of your Being, it is Divine Reality. The presence of this Reality is the presence of Bliss, of Love, of Freedom. Unless we attain, in this life, this Silence, this Comprehension of ourselves, of the Truth about this mind free from the past, from all this old movement of thought, there will never be Real Awareness of God.

Here, the Awareness of the Truth about God is the Vision of the Reality of your Being. There are two elements present that are part of this Vision of Reality: the presence of Self-Awareness and the presence of Meditation. The basis for the Awareness of your Being is Self-Awareness, and this Awareness of your Being reveals itself when this Divine State, this State of God, this Natural State of this Being, which is your Being, reveals itself. This is the Presence of Meditation. It is not someone practicing meditation. It is the Truth of Meditation that reveals itself naturally, without any effort, when we place Attention on everything that happens to us at this instant, in this moment. This study of oneself is the end of this psychological condition of mental restlessness, of unconscious movement of thoughts and, therefore, this is the end of suffering.

GC: Thank you, Master, our time has come to an end. Thank you for this videocast.

And for those of you who are watching the videocast until the end and really want to delve deeper into these teachings, to have a real comprehension of what Master Gualberto is sharing, we invite you to participate in the online weekend meetings that Master Gualberto offers. They are available online, in person, and also as retreats. In these meetings, the Master answers our questions directly and, much more than that: because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, he shares a State of Presence with a Power and Grace that, just by being in his presence, we end up taking a ride on this field of this Power of Presence. And with that, naturally, we enter the meditative state, we silence our minds. So, it is a great opportunity and a true grace to have access to an Awakened One who shares this State of Presence. So, here is the invitation.

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April, 2025
Gravatá-PE, Brazil
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