September 4, 2025

Joel Goldsmith. The Art of Spiritual Healing. What is death? The fear of death. Marcos Gualberto.

GC: Hello, everyone! We are here in another videocast. Once again, Master Gualberto is here with us. Thank you, Master, for being here. Master, I am going to read an excerpt today from Joel Goldsmith's book called "The Art of Spiritual Healing." In an excerpt from this book, Master, Joel Goldsmith makes the following comment: "I must say, however, that each individual has the right over his own life and his own death." On this subject of death, can the Master share his vision of what death is and the fear of death?

MG: Gilson, your question about what death is and the fear of death are two questions that need to be studied and comprehended. Contact with the reality of death is something entirely different from this contact with the fear of death. What is this fear of death? We never get close to the truth about fear. It is not just about the fear of death, it is about fear! We have many forms of fear; the fear of death is just one of the ways of fear that we have. But when you look closely at this issue of fear, you realize that it does not matter if it is the dark, the ghost, the past, the future that you are afraid of. whether it is of getting sick, getting old, or the fear of death. Fear, basically, is fear! So, what is the truth about fear, which naturally includes the fear of death?

All forms of fear that we have are structured, these forms of fear, in a notion, within us, of time. Your fear is of something that will happen, or of something that has happened and that can be discovered, that is, that will happen. The fear of the past is, in fact, the fear of the future, and the fear of the future, like the fear of the past, is the presence of time. It is only when you have this notion of time that you have this feeling of fear. But we are dealing here not with reality, but with thought, when we talk about time. Because there is no past at this moment to be afraid of; there is no future at this moment to be afraid of. The presence of thought is the presence of fear.

So, it is not of getting sick, of getting old, of dying that you are afraid of. The presence of this fear is the presence of thought about it. We are dealing not with the reality of the thing itself, we are dealing with the reality of thought. Since the reality of thought is imagination about the past or about the future, we are dealing with a belief. So, there is a difference between the fear of death and the truth about death. We have never come into contact with death. The moment you discover what this real contact with death is, there will be no fear, because you are free from thought, from imagination.

Here, together, we are exploring this. So, what is the truth about death? The truth about death is what happens here, in this instant. When something ends, it is the end of it. If death really happens in this instant, there will be no gap between the present death and you having a thought about it. Then, there will be no fear! You are not afraid of death now, of old age now, of an accident now. An accident, old age or death in this instant, the presence of this event, this occurrence, this happening, is something instantaneous, immediate. This is here as a reality, a truth. We are faced with a fact, which is the fact of death, or the fact of illness. It is the thought about illness, it is the thought about old age, it is the thought about death, the issue of fear. Therefore, when you ask "What is death?"... Death is what is happening here, all the time.

It is very interesting to look at this. At every moment, we are faced with death. Death is the end of what is here, at this moment, happening, and everything that is happening will never happen again. This is death! We are always in contact with death and, paradoxically, we never come into contact with death. This sense of the "I" within us, of the ego, is the illusory sense of someone who is storing experiences. Let's put this here, let's investigate this here together. This moment is a unique moment! It has never happened, it will never happen again. See, this is not a philosophical matter, it is not a psychological matter, it is not a theological matter, it is a simple matter! At every moment, we are faced with a new instant, a new moment that is happening and ending. It's simple! It's always like this.

So, this experience right now is happening and ending, but the sense of the "I," of the ego, of this thinker present within us, records this moment. It takes it to memory, it forms this center. This center formed of memories, of recollections, is the result of experiences. Based on these experiences, memories, recollections, this center creates this "I," this "me," this ego, this thinker. So, at every moment, we are coming into contact with the moment from the past and acquiring new experiences, and also storing them in this center. See, this is the continuity of the "I," this is the continuity of the thinker, of the ego. Since this is something that establishes in us the illusion of security, of knowledge and of experience, this life of ours, particular to the "I," is a life that never comes into contact with the moment, allowing this moment to be only what it is, that is, the moment that ends.

Notice how simple and yet extraordinarily profound this is. Gilson, we are always cultivating the experiencer, the thinker, the "I." This is the person, the ego. So, this fear within us of the end of things is the fear of death, but it is the fear that is present because of the presence of the past, because of the presence of the "I," because of the presence of this experiencer. Is it possible to have contact with life at this moment without the past? This contact with life at this moment, without the past, is death. There is no fear of death, because death is life. There is no separation between life and death, unless thought creates this separation. When it creates this separation, it creates a thinker to think about it, to fear it, to try to escape from it, to escape from it.

So, what have human beings been doing? They have been creating theories, concepts, ideas, beliefs about continuity after death. It is always the sense of "I," of the ego, when we witness the end of things - a flower dies, a tree dies, our little pet also dies, and we have seen people die - but we are confusing the truth of life with forms. Life is the reality of that which is present here, which is appearing and disappearing, but it is something unknown. And we are confusing life with forms: we see a living flower, but we do not comprehend that life is there. It is our idea that says that the flower is alive - it is life that is alive. But life is like this, it is here! And it carries this form of appearing and disappearing; when it disappears, we say that "so-and-so died." "A" died yesterday, "C" died last week. This passing away, this dying, is the disappearance of forms.

The reality of contact with the Truth of your Being is the truth of That which is imperishable, which does not perish, which is beyond this birth and death. The Truth about you, Gilson, is that in your Real Nature you are life. The Truth about each one of us is that there is a present reality and this reality is, at every moment, in this appearing and disappearing, and this carries this quality of the Eternal, of the Unknown, of the Unnamable, which is the Truth of God. This is the Truth about life, this is the Truth about death. These various theories that are created about the after of the disappearance of forms are concepts, beliefs. The mind loves this, the mind loves this idea of ??the afterlife, because the mind lives in the past and wants to continue in some way. So, we create various theories, various beliefs, and we cling to this, because the "I," the ego, is the present element, an illusory element that wants to continue.

Contact with Divine Reality is something that transcends this idea, these beliefs, these concepts, these theories. The Reality of your Being was never born; it is not something that is alive and will die. That's what we're here with you, investigating, discovering, verifying. Okay?

GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel. Tânia asks the following question: "Does the Enlightened or the Awakened One feel the sensation of fear?"

MG: Our questions are interesting. We are very curious to know how the Enlightened One feels. There is a direct way for you to get closer to how the Enlightened feels. Assuming the Truth of What is you is assuming the Truth of what it is to feel, what it is to think, what life is as it happens. I have always come across questions like this. So, the answer to this question is very simple. When you ask: "Does the Enlightened feel fear?" In the face of physical danger, at that moment, an answer is given for that moment. In this answer we have the presence of an impulse free from that feeling of separation that is present when the ego is present.

This way of feeling about this moment, about this moment when a real danger is present - when you are faced with the possibility of an accident - in that moment, you move away from the danger, when that is possible. Moving away from the danger of this imminent accident does not require the presence of fear, it requires the presence of this impulse, which is an impulse of intelligence, to free the body from the accident, to physically free yourself from that situation. There is a difference between the presence of fear and the presence of this impulse of intelligence to get away from an imminent danger, a real danger. If you come across a snake - you are walking on a trail and you see a snake - you move away. Do you move away out of fear or do you move away because there is a natural memory of brain history, of human history, of risk, of danger? This distancing is not out of fear, it is a distancing due to intelligence!

We have to differentiate between what is fear and what is intelligence. The body's self-defense response to an urgent need to move away from danger, that is not fear, it is intelligence. There is a difference between the presence of this impulse of intelligence and fear. What we know as fear is something that is based on thought. What are you afraid of? It is what will happen to you. But what will happen to you, at this moment, is only a memory, it is only a thought. Thus, we do not know what real contact with the fact of fear is. We are in the idea of ??what fear represents, of what fear should be, of what fear can be, of what fear will be. This "may be," this "will be," this "happening tomorrow," is something that is based here, at this moment, in thought. You are not afraid of death, for example. You are afraid of the thought about death, about the end of this "me," of this "I." Thus, your fear is the fear of what will be, it is the fear of what will happen, it is the fear of what may arise when death occurs or after death occurs.

Thus, there is a difference between the truth of fear and the idea of ??fear, the idea that causes fear, the idea about fear. Gilson, it is necessary to comprehend this clearly. There is a difference between getting rid of a real danger and imagining a danger that thought is telling you that could happen, that will arise at some point. So, that is the difference. Freedom, with regard to fear, consists in comprehending that life, as it happens at this moment, at this instant, presents risks, but it is not a reason for fear. You are not afraid of an accident if it happens at this moment, you are not afraid of death if it happens at this moment, you are not afraid of illness at this moment, nor of something bad that could happen to you at this moment. It is only when thought arises about the possibility of this that the presence of fear arises. Therefore, an answer to life at this moment is something simple, direct, when we are dealing with the facts, as they happen.

Now, from the perspective of thought, this issue of fear is present in us. To be free from the past is to be free from thought. Free from thought, you have no future! There is no fear without the presence of thought. See that it is always thought, which creates a bad future for you, the basis of fear, the truth about fear. This encounter with the reality of life in this moment is an encounter with the challenge of the moment. Without thought, there is life as it happens. If you are faced with a danger and it is here, in this moment, there is an action, and this action is for self-protection of the body, of this organism. This is not fear, this is intelligence. This is what we need to clearly differentiate. This feeling, which then involves emotions and actions based on thinking about the future, is psychological fear. It is the sense of fear that the ego knows.

Life does not offer fear, it presents us with moments. This response to life based on thought is always inadequate. The response to life without thought is the response of Intelligence. Okay?

GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel. Maria asks the following question: "Master, why am I always getting distracted, being taken into this illusion of time?"

MG: Why am I always getting distracted, getting carried away in time? Because that's how thought works! What can stop that is this attention on this moment, which is the moment of thought. You get distracted and carried away in time because you put yourself as the person, as the thinker about this thought. Just observe thought, become aware of thought or the feeling, or the emotion in this moment. But don't get involved with it, and tell me if you get carried away by time again. You only get carried away by time when you come into existence as the experiencer of that thought, the experiencer of that experience. That thought, that experience, is the past, it's the memory. Let thought or experience just be what it is, don't get involved with it. By not getting involved with thought, you don't put the thinker in. When you don't get involved with the experience, you don't put the experiencer in; when you don't get involved with the past, you don't put someone who comes from the past into it. So, at that moment, we stop time.

Time only has continuity because this element that comes from the past is involved with memory, with thought, with experience. What interrupts the presence of this element is this attention; looking at our reactions without getting involved with them is breaking with time. Because you break with the intention, with the motive, with the reason of the "I," of this "me," of this ego. This requires the presence of this attention, this requires the presence of Self-awareness.

Looking at this moment, without placing the thinker, the experiencer, the observer in this instant, is to be free from time, is to be free from the "I," is to be free from the ego! Obviously, this requires the presence of a work on ourselves. That is why we have these meetings to deepen this, to allow ourselves this encounter with the present moment without the thinker, without the experiencer, without the past. Okay?

GC: Thank you, Master, our time has come to an end. Thank you for this videocast. And for those of you who are watching the video until the end and really want to comprehend these subjects, we invite you to participate in the meetings that Master Gualberto offers. In these meetings - which exist in-person, retreat format and also in the online weekend format - the Master, in addition to answering directly, live, our questions, because He already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, shares this State of Presence. He already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, shares this State of Presence. And in this sharing of the Master there is a Power, there is a Force, there is an Energy that is a great facilitator for us to be able to investigate ourselves, to be able to enter, naturally and spontaneously, into the meditative state, to silence our minds... So, here is the invitation. In the first comment, pinned, there is the WhatsApp link to be able to participate in these meetings. Also, give a like to the video, subscribe to the channel... And, Master, once again, thank you for the videocast.

May, 2025
Gravatá-PE, Brazil
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