May 7, 2026

Joel Goldsmith | Living the Illumined Life | What is spiritual life? | Marcos Gualberto

GC: Hello everyone! We're here for another videocast, and Master Gualberto is with us again. Thank you, Master, for being here. Today I'm going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called "Living the Illumined Life." In one passage of this book, Master, Joel makes the following comment: "In spiritual life there is no chance, nor accidental events of any kind." In this passage, Joel comments on spiritual life. Within this subject, Master, can you share your vision of what spiritual life is?

MG: Gilson, life is one single life. Thought, within us, is the element that separates, divides, and subdivides. We speak of material life, we speak of emotional life, we speak of spiritual life. Thus, for us, there are diverse forms of life, and we can continue subdividing this. The Reality of life, that is what interests us here, in these meetings, to have a direct vision. There is a difference between indirectly looking at something-which is what we generally do when our approach to it is intellectual, theoretical, in words, verbal. It is the indirect way of addressing certain issues.

It has created several difficulties for most of us. We are only treading on the ground of ideas, in the field of concepts, in the theoretical environment, in the space of abstraction, when we are dealing only with theories, with words, with concepts. And that is what we do when we talk about life: we write poetry, poems, songs. we put the expression "life" in a romantic, emotional, sentimental way, in song lyrics, in poetry and poems, and we find the power of this expression very interesting, but we remain only in this quality of field, which is the theoretical field.

We are unaware of the Reality of life, and that is our endeavor here, that is our interest here: we are investigating the Truth about life. And the Truth about life is that there is no "someone" to live life; that is just another idea we have. We speak of life as an element separate from ourselves, as if we were the present, living element, meant to live. We mistake ourselves for the body, we mistake ourselves for the mind, we see ourselves as entities separate from life, and then we speak of the possibility of a spiritual life, just as we believe that we are already living a life. So, the idea is to move from the material life we ??are living to a spiritual life.

What we are actually living, or believing we are living, is the presence of a dream that we call "life." When people die, we believe they have left life, that they've been taken from life. In truth, what we now have is the physical absence, or the absence of the appearance of a person within a dream, because the pure Reality of life, the real life, is Divine Reality, the Reality of God, and we assume this Reality when we leave behind the illusion of the dream, this so-called "life" that we call "my life," the idea of ??this particular life of the person. So, "I have my life united with your life," "I love my life," "I am living my own life well," these are expressions we use, expressions without any real meaning, because we are only expressing thoughts, ideas, concepts, and beliefs - and how we appreciate that!

And now we are talking about achieving a spiritual life. You ask: "What is this spiritual life?" It seems to me that, the awareness of life is the true comprehension of life, and it is only possible when life is real, and it is only real when there is no more illusion. The presence of thought is sustaining, for each of us, the continuity of a dream that we call "material life," and in this so-called "material life," we are pursuing happiness, pursuing peace, pursuing freedom. We are on a trajectory or journey of pursuit to find, in the thought, within us. The idea is of finding tomorrow: tomorrow finding love, tomorrow finding peace, tomorrow finding God, tomorrow finding spiritual life, ceasing to be materialistic.

The reality of what we call "life" is the absence of real life-that is the reality of the life we ??know within thought. Here, investigating the issue of thought means comprehending the nature of the one who thinks, who is the person; of the one who feels, who is the person; of the one who believes to be the person. That is the dream! It is a dream present in the mind, within its illusions. We need to be aware of a free, clear, lucid, real mind, where there is no longer this contamination of beliefs, concepts, ideas, imaginations, as we are currently living. That is how we are living this particular life of the person: we are inside a dream.

So, you ask what spiritual life is. It is real life, but this real life is not the life of "someone," it is not life for "someone," it is the life of Being. Yes, it is life in this Being. Being is the essential nature of each of us, it is the Truth about God, the nature of your Being. Here is life, a life that, however strange it may seem to us, is beyond birth and death. It is fundamental to comprehend this, that it is the only real life. It is not life for you, it is the life that is you! We are dividing, not only in words, but above all in an imaginary way, we are establishing in living the illusion of this separation. Therefore, what disappears here is this illusion.

Life is not something that is absent; however, what is present falsifies the Reality of this life that is here and now, and what is present is the illusion of an identity, the illusion of "someone," of "someone" who feels alive and who can die. All our fright, fear, all our dread consists in the disappearance of this history, of all this memory, of what thought believes it has, possesses, for this "me," for this "I." That is why we speak of the fear of death. Some engage in this so-called "spiritual" search in the idea, in the illusion of what they also call "spirituality": a path, a form, a way to escape suffering.

The reality of life is the end of suffering. Yes, it is the end of the idea of ??someone dying, but that is the Realization of the Truth of That which is present here, not something for the future in this imaginary spirituality. Therefore, spiritual life consists in the awareness of the Reality of this Being, in the awareness of the Reality of God, here and now. You were born to embrace the Truth that there is no one present. We have, here in life, the reality of God, and that is the true spiritual life. Real Divine life is the life of this Being. Therefore, Love, Happiness, Peace, Freedom, is the presence of this life, of this awareness of God, of this real life, of this Divine life, of this real spiritual life.

GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel, who made the following comment: "Master, can I find God, even with so many thoughts?"

MG: Gilson, the idea of ??finding God is still just a thought. We need to discover the Reality present, yes, beyond thought. But investigating the nature, the structure of thought is to find oneself in the possibility, in fact, of going beyond them. And when we are beyond thoughts, we discover this Reality present; this Reality present beyond thoughts is your natural State of Being. Here, the presence of Being is the absence of the mind as we know it, and therefore it is the absence of this model of thought. Your concern is to have an encounter with God. Here the recommendation is: investigate the nature of the "I," investigate the nature of this thinker. Once it is clarified that thought is the thinker itself and this thinker is the "I," and this "I" as a person is an illusion, once this is clarified, the Reality of God, which is not absent, reveals itself.

We cannot, in fact, have an encounter with God, because the idea of ??someone having such an encounter is an illusion. It is the very thought, stemming from the idea of ??that thinker, creating this suggestion. The real, direct path to God is to become aware of the illusion of the "I," the illusion of this person, and it requires the presence of Self-awareness, it requires a look at life without the model of the past. The model of the past is the model constructed, designed by this structure of ideas, beliefs, words, which are thoughts. It is necessary, and that is fundamental, to have a mind free from the past, a mind free from all this historical content-??the history of this character, which is the history of this ego-identity. The complete emptying of all this content arises naturally when the mind finds itself free from all the psychological occupation.

Here it is the presence of Meditation, the true approach to the Truth of this revelation, this awareness of God. God is the only Reality present, but any idea about that is just a belief. We see ourselves as people, separate from life, separate from God. The Reality of life is the Reality of God, and this is the Truth of this Being: there are no people! This is what we need to comprehend, and this comprehension is born, flourishes, awakens naturally, when we discover what it is to learn about ourselves, what it is to learn how the mind works. And it eliminates this quality of particular life in this dream, which is the dream of someone present. It eliminates this particular life of this center, of this "I." Then, God reveals himself as the only Reality present when the Truth of Meditation is here. Therefore, we need to learn the awareness of Being, we need to learn about Meditation, Reality, what real Meditation is. We have a playlist here on the channel, working with you on this matter of Self-awareness and real Meditation in a practical, experiential way.

GC: Master, regarding this topic of thought, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel, who made the following comment: "How to observe my thoughts without getting lost in them?"

MG: Gilson, your question is: "How not to get lost in thoughts?" Note that the central idea, the basic idea in all of us, is of someone present doing something, accomplishing something, having a purpose and working towards it. Here, yes, work is needed, a purpose is present; however, there is no one to do this work, nor to achieve this goal or purpose. So, here, in response to your question, which is "How to observe thoughts?", we are faced with something of incredible simplicity, but at the same time incredibly complex! We are creating this incredible difficulty for something so basic and simple, which is looking at thoughts.

Out of habit, bias, practice, or addiction, we are constantly interfering in the present moment, interfering with what is happening here. We see ourselves as an entity present in this instant to interfere. So, we see ourselves as someone capable of intervening, shaping, and interfering in the moment. I refer to interfering with the experience of this instant, for example: a thought is present. When it arises, immediately, out of habit-this is how we have been functioning for millennia-the thinker emerges. When a thought arises, the thinker immediately emerges. This thinker is the person who likes the thought or dislikes the thought.

So, we don't know how to look at thought, because our gaze is contaminated by an observer, by a thinker, by an experiencer who wants to interfere. However, we need to discover, here and now, what it means looking-just to look, simply to look-in this attention, looking. Looking is not interfering, looking is not liking or disliking, it's not trying to do something with what you observe, it's just looking! It's as if I were to present you with a flower: you can look at the flower or you can create ideas about it. I present to you the flower and you imagine this flower in a vase inside your house, on top of some piece of furniture. I present to you the flower and you imagine yourself extending your hands, picking this flower and giving it to someone. You can have many images about this flower that I show you. Any of these images is an imagination within you about this flower.

When you do that, you lose the "gaze"-there is no longer a gaze directed at this flower; what we have present is someone looking at this flower. We are constantly putting intention, motivation, the idea of ??what to do; we are doing this all the time with experiences. Thus, it is very common, when faced with something we are seeing, to project the idea of ??someone being present. The presence of this someone is this one which observes from an ideal, a purpose, or an intention.

Here, the Truth of this fundamental gaze is this gaze without the observer, this is the fundamental gaze without interfering. So, there is a direct observation; therefore, to observe is simply to look, to become aware, to become conscious. It is not to interfere, it is not to do something with what you are seeing. The idea, the intention, the motivation to do something is the presence of a separation between what is being observed and someone in this observation. You ask: "How to observe thoughts?" It's the same way you look at something: you just look!

Become aware of thoughts; when a feeling arises, become aware of the feeling or emotion, or sensation. If a thought arises within you, you simply observe. If a sensation appears with that feeling, you simply observe. The point is that we are constantly engaging with thought or sensation, or with what shows itself, with what presents itself. Thus, we are placing an experiencer, an observer. There is no real observation when the observer is present because, as looking, that looking is to interfere.

Will it be possible to only look a thought as it arises, a feeling as it appears, a sensation?... This feeling, this sensation, this thought is something that is arising due to a stimulus-this stimulus is what is presenting this experience. When there is only the look without interference, we have the end of the idea of ??someone present being the experiencer, being the observer. True observation is observation without the "I," which is the observer! This is the real way of approaching Meditation, it is looking at this instant without the past, that is, without the interference of the "I," without the interference of this experiencer, without the interference of this observer.

Approaching this moment requires looking at it. The true look of this moment is one of perception-in this perception there is no one to perceive; it is listening to what this moment represents-in this listening there is no one to interfere. Then, something beyond what shows itself here is revealed. Thus, we are before the end of duality, the end of separation. There is no observer observing something, no experiencer experiencing something, no one listening to this or that-it is only listening, only observing, only perceiving.

This is the true approach to this moment, when the sense of separation is not. For a long time, everything we've done has been from the perspective of "I," from the perspective of "someone." We look from the perspective of ideas, concepts, beliefs, will, desires, the impulse to do something, to alter, to modify. And so we always place the presence of an identity here, which separates itself from this instant, from this moment. Therefore, there is a quality of approach to this moment, from both an external and internal viewpoint, without the presence of this duality, without the presence of this "I" and the "non-I." It requires this attention.

Just looking, just perceiving, then something new emerges. That something is the awareness of non-duality; then what is present here beyond this "I" and the "non-I" is revealed. This is the true way of approaching the present moment, this instant, what happens externally or internally. Therefore, this sense of "I" does not show itself, does not present itself. So, there is no one to get lost in when there is only the gaze, the perception, the observation. There is no one getting lost in thoughts; what we have present is the presence of thought. This sense of someone is not real, and what reveals this is this quality of approaching this moment in this attention. Thus, contact with this instant is the vision of the moment, the simple and direct vision of what is present here, emerging in this instant, internally or externally.

GC: Thank you, Master, our time is up. Thank you for this videocast. And for those of you who are watching the videocast to the end and truly wish to experience these Truths, we invite you to participate in the intensive weekend meetings that Master Gualberto offers. These meetings are much deeper than these videos here on YouTube. First, because the Master answers our questions live, and second, and much more impactful, is that, because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, He shares a field of presence around Him, a field of Energy of Power and Grace. And, in these meetings, we end up taking a ride in this field of the Master's Presence. And, taking this ride with the Master, spontaneously, without any practice, without any technique, without any effort, we enter the Meditative State, we silence our minds and we can have a real vision and comprehension of the subjects that are discussed here on the channel.

So, here's the invitation: in the first pinned comment, you'll find the WhatsApp link to participate in these meetings. Also, please leave a "like" to the video, subscribe to the channel. and, Master, once again, thank you for the videocast.

October, 2025
Gravatá-PE, Brazil
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