You all are welcome to one more meeting, here on Paltalk.
Here, we have investigated this: to what extent does anything need to be done and how does this need to be done? That is what we investigate in Satsang. It seems that, while there is this identification with this apparent individual, with this apparent person, there will be no choice. So, what is the meaning of pursuit? What does this pursuit mean?
Truth is quite paradoxical. The pursuit is not real. However, if there is no yearning for surrendering and working on this, Realization does not happen. You cannot create this, but at the same time you cannot stand idly by waiting for this to happen accidentally as a lightning falling on top of your head and bringing this enlightenment, this awakening. Here is where many get lost by choosing a side and despising the other. How to solve this?
What I perceive is that absurd simplification. Someone chooses one of these sides and talks about it, discusses about it, deals with it, but they do not realize they fell into a trap. To say that no work is necessary is a trap. To say that the very effort and willpower will determine this self-realization is also a trap. That is the difficulty.
What is this veil that hides this Happiness, this Freedom, this Enlightenment, this Self-realization? What veil is this? In my view, the very search, the effort itself, the own personal will, using the very methods the person knows and that would use in any other enterprise to accomplish this, is the very veil that hides this. This does not come by personal effort, by personal will, by personal work... This Self-realization, Enlightenment, Awakening, Happiness emerges, blossoms, arises, appears, takes Its place by an action of Grace. We are saying this happens to you, you do not produce this.
You have just said that while I was talking about this immutability something happened internally. You became aware of this clearly. So, notice it is not a personal effort, not a personal work; you made no effort, no work; you are just here, now, at this moment, and this Presence was able to make this possible. This Presence is Consciousness, Grace. This is given to you, but nevertheless, you had to be here, you had to have entered the room, you were in the position to listen, to feel, to understand it.
There is something present in this room greater than the speech, which is the very power of the Grace. This is what makes the work possible, which is beyond your efforts, willpower, or determination. In this contact with a living Master, it becomes possible. In this contact with the power of this Presence, it becomes possible. But that is very subtle, it is a tenuous line: how far can you go by making it possible, and to what extent are you the very impediment?
I have often talked about the importance of surrender – it helps a lot. Surrender is the direct path, devotion, abandonment; it is to give up yourself to accomplish This. This also means, at the same time, an opening, sensitivity, a full and complete vulnerability. Then, this descends on you, or rather, it comes from within, arises from the inside, sweeping away completely the egoic mind, the sense of separation, the sense of the "me."
So, to what extent is there something one can do? To what extent is there nothing that can be done? That is the question! If you do something, you disturb it. If you do not do, you disturb it even more. If you apply your will and determination, you disturb it. If you do not apply full will and determination, you disturb it even more.
I am saying that if you are not willing, if you do not open yourself up, if you do not surrender, if you do not allow yourself (because of the resistance of the mind entirely concerned with the egoic interests), if you remain like that, this Self-realization is not possible, at least not now. You need to be burning for That, putting your entire life on That, applying your heart fully on That.
You need to wake up with this in the morning, spend the day with it, sleep with it at night, and the next day, wake up with it again in the morning, spend the day with it and sleep with it. On the third day, you do it different: you wake up with it, spend the day with it and sleep with it again. On the fourth day you repeat the first; on the fifth day, you repeat the second; on the sixth day, you repeat the third or fourth... (laughs)
In this sense, it is essential to be in presential Satsang, within a "sangha," getting "upadesa," direction, teaching. It is not information about it, but a direct warning on how not to mistake yourself for, how not to get lost, how not to identify one more time with this egoic world, with this mental world. This is what Grace needs, what the Guru needs, what the One who is beyond duality needs. This One no longer loses oneself; this One has already been through this whole process and knows it directly, not intellectually, but directly; not theoretically, but directly.
Participant: How do I remain in my Real Nature, permanently, if the mind is excited?
Master Gualberto: The mind is excited due to these "vasanas" – a word used in Yoga in India – these latent tendencies of the mind, its patterns of desires, choices, motives, hidden intention. This must end! If this does not end, the mind remains continually excited, going back to the same and old patterns.
That is why the practice of meditation does not work. No technique to quiet or silence the mind is going to work. Self-realization is not the stillness of the mind, the silent mind. Self-realization is the end of duality, the end of the sense of separation, the end of the sense of "me" within the experience, including the experience of thinking. Thought is only an experience, as well as emotion, sensation or feeling. When there is no duality, when there is no sense of "me" within the experience, there is no conflict and what is present is your Real Nature.
Consciousness is not separate from the experience of thinking, feeling, emotion, sensation or sentiment. But Consciousness in that experience, out of duality, is not lost, not confused; It does not identify with this anymore. This is something that many of you have understood in a completely wrong way. I have noticed this: many of you speak about this silence of the mind as if it were the own realization. Self-Realization is not the silence of the mind; Self-Realization is the end of the sense of an identity in this thought experience. This is a completely different thing.
Participant: Then, how to eliminate this sense of "me"?
Master Gualberto: This answer is directly related to a work. There is no definitive answer to that, a verbal answer, a sentence or two, or ten. In Satsang, yes, there is an answer to that! During in-person Satsang, in front of a living Master pointing out to you, showing you, making you verify these patterns, these mind's tendencies, these mind's ingrained habits... The Master's indication, this way of making you perceive all this directly, is part of the work in presential meetings. Then, you have an answer that means the elimination of this sense of a "me." But this is not possible with eyes closed, chanting mantra, nor quieting the mind for a moment. You can meditate this way a thousand years. Eyes closed, the mind is silent; after the meditation ends, you are back!
I have never practiced meditation; my whole practice was devotional but no meditation. The practice of devotion is the practice of surrender to the feet of this living Presence, this Consciousness, this Grace. My experience is this: The look of the Guru! Looking at His eyes was enough, listening to His Silence in my heart was enough, it already contained all the teaching, all upadesa, all guidance. This real attention in the present is this Consciousness always present in that surrender. This Presence, which is this internal Consciousness there, does all the work. You need to have your heart turned to That intensely, your whole heart into That. You need to be willing to "die," to give everything for That. You must be burning for That.
Participant: Are there any plans to Satsangs in Minas Gerais (a state in Brazil)? For in Campos do Jordão (a city in Brazil) is very cold at this time of the year.
Master Gualberto: If you are burning for This, you will not feel cold at all in Campos do Jordão city. If you are not burning for This, nothing is going to work. These meetings do not have to go up to you; you have to go to these meetings. It is not the Guru who has to go up to you; it is you that have to come to the Guru. It is not the Guru who has to go to Minas Gerais; you yourself have to come to Campos do Jordão. The Guru can be on Himalayan Mountain top, there on the snowy peak, but you have to meet the Guru there. If you are burning for This, you are not going to freeze, but rather realize God, realize the Truth about yourself. Now, if you are not burning for this, anything will be a great excuse – heat, cold, lack of money, lack of time...
Participant: Master, a year ago I lost my job, I cannot succeed in getting another one, I am depressed. Two weeks ago I met you Master, I watch your videos, but it is difficult to understand it and silent the mind, my mind screams 24 hours a day.
Master Gualberto: Leave this thing of silencing the mind behind, girl! Like now, here, just listen to my speech, put your heart into it. When watching my videos, look at me, not at my speech, look at my Silence, look at Me and you will realize that I will be looking at You. In fact, my speech carries this Silence able to do an extraordinary work within you. A work that you cannot do! It is not an ordinary thing, that is why I said extraordinary! It is not in this speech, but in this Silence; It is not in my gestures on the video, but at this look.
You cannot approach this work to get rid of depression or trauma or emotional problem. There are many therapists to help you! I have no interest in that. My interest is to show you What You are! You are not the body, you are not the mind! So neither the heat, cold, depression, fear, anxiety, nor any other negative mental response can prevent you from realizing What You are, your Real Nature.
I am here for those who are willing to realize This, and not for those who feel too hot or too cold. Without being willing to go beyond that sense of a separate "me," this illusion of being someone, it does not help to ask how to eliminate this sense of "me." You need to be willing to surrender that sense of "me" who is afraid of cold or afraid of heat, or this "me" who feels anxious or depressed or any of these states that the "me" knows.
All of you here need to pay attention to this: This long-distance "dating" does not give birth to the child; it does not get anyone pregnant! This child needs to be born, and it is not possible here. Is that clear?
OK, So, let us stop here! Namaste!
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