GC: Hello, everyone! We're here for another videocast, and Master Gualberto is here with us again. Thank you, Master, for your presence. I'm going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called "The Master Speaks." In an excerpt from that book, Joel makes the following comment: "Your sufferings are caused, not by anything in the world, but by your reaction to them." Master, on this subject of suffering, can you share your perspective on what psychic suffering is?
MG: Gilson, the condition in which thought finds itself within us is the condition where we are present, experiencing these thoughts from a center that separates itself from this memory. This center is the basis of memory itself, which is thought. As long as there is a separation between thought and this center, which is the "I," the "me," the ego, there will be some level of suffering, some level of problem. We see ourselves as someone who is the center of experiences. Therefore, we have experiences and this someone as the center of these experiences. And these experiences, part of these experiences, are the presence of thought. When you go through an experience and it's painful, it leaves a mark; when you go through an experience and it's pleasurable, it leaves a mark. This mark is the record of the experience; it's how this center, which is the experiencer, is formed.
When we record this experience, whether of pleasure or pain, from this record, there is the presence of this center, which is the "I." The presence of psychological suffering is the presence of this center rejecting this memory, this psychological condition that is, basically, experiences stored within us, coming from the past. We have countless examples of internal states, present within each of us. Examining these states closely, you will realize that it is only the presence of memory that makes this present state possible at this moment. Someone offended you, someone upset you, someone saddened you. The memory of that someone doing that to you is a recollection, it is a memory, it is the past returning. When this returns, in that moment, this "I," this center, this experiencer, is once again living this experience. This experience is the past, it is memory, it is something that has already passed and, yet, it is back here. This is the presence of psychic suffering. The presence of anxiety, anger, sadness, fear, worries, the pain of loneliness. There are countless forms of psychic suffering.
And all these forms of suffering are, basically, the presence of this "I" suffering, which is this center of memories, of remembrances. We need to become aware of the truth about this "I," about this center, to go beyond these memories, these remembrances, to go beyond the past. The cause of suffering is the illusion of the past, here. There is no past here; what is present is only a thought. But when this sense of "I" arises, when this center-which is the experiencer-returns, once again, to this memory, to this remembrance, this past assumes the reality of the present moment. This is the illusion of the past, this is the illusion of the "I," this is the illusion of the ego. Discovering life happening, and it is happening in this moment, and in it there is no past. There is no past here and now. It is thought that brings back memory, and with memory, an experiencer to live it again. Thus, we spend our entire lives involved in all kinds of positions in life, based on the past, that is, alienated from the Beauty of this moment. In this moment, there is no past, in this moment, there is no suffering, because in this moment there is no sufferer! There is no such thing as "I," unless thought assumes again, and again, and again, value and importance, thus sustaining the past, and as thought, separating itself to establish here, in this moment, the presence of the "I," the presence of the ego, the presence of the sufferer.
We need to investigate this to go beyond this "I," this ego, this past, this thought. The end of this past, which is the end of this "I," which is the end of this quality of psychological thought within us, is the end of the illusion of a future, where we can live again and again these conditions created by thought. We are again, again, and again, transforming this present moment into a past that has already passed. We do not allow the past to end, so the future maintains its continuity based on these memories, these remembrances. The beauty of life reveals itself here, in this moment, when the past is gone, when thought does not return, when there is no "I." So, in this encounter, there is the truth that there is no suffering! Life as it unfolds does not carry problems, but how thought evaluates, translates, interprets, brings back its vision... now, yes, there is the presence of the problem, of disorder, of confusion, of conflict... there is the presence of psychic suffering.
A mind free of the past is a quiet, silent brain, free from this center that is the experiencer, free from these experiences that are recorded memories. It's a brain free from the past, something that happens when we bring attention to this moment. Then, we can respond to life in this moment without the past and, therefore, without all the confusion that egoic thinking, the "I" thinking, the thought of this center, which is this "me," this person, is creating. A life without psychic suffering, a life without suffering, a life where Love is present, Freedom is present, Peace is here, it's the Divine Truth, it's the Truth of God, it's the Truth of your Being. Okay?
GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel. Ana asks the following question: "Master, my mind lives in conflict, painful thoughts don't stop. How can I find silence in this chaos?"
MG: Yes, you say that thoughts, see, thoughts are painful and they don't stop. Notice, this is the truth that thought expresses. Thought within us is merely the continuation of the past, the continuation of memory. It constantly reasserts itself, time after time, time after time. It is the continuation of this pattern of behavior, of thought in this conditioned brain, in this conditioned mind, the sustenance of this egoic identity. We need to break free from this painful condition, but you speak of silence in chaos. The idea of bringing silence to chaos is also just another thought. Silence cannot appear amidst chaos. We need to become aware of chaos. It is the full awareness of chaos that enables us to go beyond chaos. The intention to free ourselves from these painful thoughts and this chaos is a movement of volition, of desire, of wanting, of will of the mind itself, which is chaos; of the mind itself, restless, in pain. Here, the recommendation is: come closer to the chaos, the pain.
Discover what it is to look without any intention, wanting, or desire to free yourself. Otherwise, you will, once again, placing the own mind to serve the mind. The own mind in distress to cope with an afflicted mind. It's essential to learn to look, observe, perceive, and become aware of the chaos. Be aware of these thoughts without reacting, without getting involved, without being present to do something. There's no separation between this pain of thoughts and you, between this chaos and you. Every resistance, every intention to do something and free yourself, creates a separation between this painful experience of thoughts, between this chaos and the experiencer. The continuity of the "I" requires resistance, struggle, and this internal movement, even unconsciously, to free ourselves. It's essential that we discover what it means to bring true attention to these reactions at this moment. It's this closeness to ourselves without the sense of someone to do something, to overcome, conquer, triumph, free ourselves... that we need.
I recommend that you take part in an online meeting and investigate more deeply what we are addressing here. There's something possible in online meetings that we don't have in these videos, here. The fundamental element for ending this psychological condition, which is the condition of the "I," continues to be the presence of this Divine Grace. There's a greater Power that makes all this work possible. Here we present to you what you, by becoming aware of your reactions, can, in a certain way, do. But in this doing, in reality, there is something that makes this possible that, in fact, is not you, you doing. Can we become aware of how we function? This requires the Presence of this Grace so that these reactions can be seen without the thinker, without this observer. Therefore, learning to deal with this present moment, whether it be of painful thoughts, chaos, disorder, or confusion, requires the presence of this look without the "I," perceiving without the "I," this feeling without the "I." This is what we are working on together in these meetings, especially in online and in-person meetings.
So, here is an invitation for this approach, so that this quality of the present mind within us disappears. The Truth of Life is the Truth of a silent mind, free from the past and, therefore, free from all forms of suffering. This is the Truth of Life. I refer to Real Life, not life in this sense of the "I," which is in fact confusion, disorder, pain, and chaos. Okay?
GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel. Débora makes the following comment and asks: "I feel as if my pain is part of who I am. How can I break this identification and live beyond suffering?"
MG: Yes, here we have another question. Note that it always involves the presence of pain. Our issues are unresolved issues, which we want to resolve because they are painful. We don't realize that we have unresolved issues that don't involve pain, but precisely the presence of pleasure. We don't have a very clear vision about this issue of pleasure and pain. We separate one from the other without realizing that the problems for us, as human beings, reside in the presence of this very mind, which is the egoic mind, the "I"-mind, which involves the presence of pleasure and pain. The unresolved issues within us are issues of pleasure and issues of pain for this "me."
When we speak of pain, which we want to get rid of, we don't realize that pleasure is present and this pleasure is part of the pain; and this pleasure, which is pain, we also need to get rid of. How can we have a direct approach to the truth of this present element, which is this "I"-mind, which is this egoic mind, which lives in pleasure and pain? It is the presence of thought, of how thought represents experience. It represents experience from an identity that sees itself present as the experiencer of this experience, as the thinker of these thoughts. It is the sense of "I," it is the sense of ego. Here, when we use expressions like the one you just used, such as "how to free yourself from this identification to see beyond suffering," we need to tread carefully on this ground, because we need to comprehend, first of all, that there is no separation between the one in pain and pain itself. And when we use the expression "disidentify" or "non-identification," we can fall into a trap of thought itself and believe that this pain is separate from this "I."
There is no separation between this "I" and pain. The pain is the "I"! The idea of wanting to free yourself from the pain is from the "I" itself. So, notice the game: suffering is present, pain is present, thought is present, but suffering gives us the illusion of someone who is suffering. The pain gives us the illusion of someone who is feeling this pain. Thought gives us the illusion of someone having these thoughts. However, there is no such separation between the pain and the one in pain, between the suffering and the one in suffering, between this thought and this one thinking. The thinker is thought, what is in pain is pain itself, the sufferer is suffering itself-there is no separation! Therefore, it is not a matter of disidentification. It is about a comprehension, a direct comprehension for the end of this separation, this division. If this separation ends, if this division is no longer present, all intention of getting rid of it, of doing something with that experience, disappears. Yes, when it disappears, there is no longer this pain, this suffering, this thought-we are faced with something outside the "I," outside the ego, outside the mind. But we need to comprehend clearly that it is not about getting rid of the pain, but rather getting rid of the illusion of a present identity. This element is the pain itself, this element is the "I" itself. When you say, "It's as if this pain were myself." Yes, indeed it is! You are the pain when the pain is present, you are the suffering when suffering is present; there is no separation. When we let go of what should have been or could have been from this "me," when we abandon this separation, we are in direct contact with experience without the experiencer, with perceiving without the perceiver. Thus, there is a break with this psychological condition, with this experience, and, therefore, with this "me."
As I said a moment ago, participating in online meetings is essential-here's an invitation. Much of this talk is not, in fact, comprehended. The truth of comprehending these talks, of the totality of what is presented here, requires a direct vision, not an intellectual approach. We need this Divine Power, this Power of Grace, for something beyond a mere intellectual understanding, a very particular vision of words.
Thus, we free ourselves from the trap of confusing intellectual, verbal understanding, of words, with comprehension. Comprehension is something direct, it doesn't depend on words... It is something experiential, experimental, while words are intellectual, dealing with symbols, with images, and therefore, even with thoughts. Therefore, here's an invitation. Okay?
GC: Gratitude, Master, our time is over now. Gratitude for this videocast. And for those of you who truly wish to live these Truths, to delve deeper into these subjects, we invite you to participate in the intensive meetings offered by Master Gualberto. These intensive meetings are much more profound than these videos here on YouTube. First, because we can ask questions live for the Master to answer. And second, and more impactful, is that, because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, He shares this field of Presence, of energy in which He lives. In this sharing of the Master, there is a Power, a Strength, and a Grace that, simply by being in His presence, we enter into this field of Master's Energy; we end up taking a ride on this energy of the Master's presence. And, carried along by the Master, we spontaneously enter a meditative state, quieting our minds, and gaining insight and comprehending into what lies beyond intellectual understanding. So, here's the invitation. In the first pinned comment, you'll find the WhatsApp link to participate in these meetings. Also, please give a "like" to the video and subscribe to the channel. And, Master, once again, thank you for the videocast.
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