GC: Hello, everyone! We're here for another videocast. Master Gualberto is with us again. Thank you, Master, for being here. Today I'm going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called "Realization of Oneness." In an excerpt from this book, Joel makes the following comment: "No one really fears pain in itself; it's just the pain that can lead to death. That's what's feared." Master, on this subject of death, can you share your perspective on what death is?
MG: Gilson, generally speaking, we don't pay attention, as people-see, the basis of our life is the life of a present person; that's how we feel, who we believe ourselves to be-in general, the person's vision is the vision of separation, of someone who is present, alive, separate from life itself. And, generally, this internal attitude is constantly reflected in our relations with experiences. And one of the experiences of great relevance, of great importance, that we don't investigate, is the experience of death. The Truth of death, the Reality of death, the Awareness of death. We never come into direct contact with this given thing, because we look at this experience precisely from separation, from someone, from a person, who is dealing with something separate from them. We need, in life, to become aware of death, because there is no real separation between living and dying, between life and death, between the experience-which here, in this case, is the experience of death-and the experiencer of this experience, which is the person, which is the "I."
When we touch on this issue of death, thought in us talks about it in terms of material losses. When we lose someone, we see ourselves as someone separate from the one we lost. Losing is something that, in the mind, we reject, we don't accept. We have a model of thought present within us, of mind present within each of us. This is an aspect of the person, of the personality, of the ego itself within us; it is about acquisition, it is about possessing, acquiring, and controlling. We don't realize yet, we haven't yet become aware of the truth about ourselves. Our relation with experience, from this experiencer, is that of someone who wants to possess, who wants to control, and who, therefore, clings, holds on. Looking at life, we realize that part of life-which is why there is no separation between life and death-part of life is the fact that everything comes and goes. What is here now, then it disappears. The sense of "I," of the ego, which is the presence of this image that thought has established in us about who we are, the movement of thought present within us, this present element that comes from the past, that is here, but lives holding and sustaining the past, the presence of this movement does not accept that life is exactly like this.
Therefore, we have two aspects here, regarding this death. Death for human beings is inevitable, just as, in life, the disappearance of things is inevitable; the death of human beings is also inevitable. We die by accident, old age, illness... in some other way, it's also possible, but basically, these three forms are present and most common: accident, old age, and illness. But what is the truth about death? The truth about death will only be comprehended when we comprehend the truth about life. As long as we maintain this psychological condition of "I" identity, of self-image, of the movement for acquisition, power, control, and attachment to people, objects, positions, satisfaction in pleasure, fulfillment of desires, as long as this is present, there will be the presence of fear and suffering. This is something within the "I" itself; it is the presence of the "I," the presence of this condition; it is the presence of this ego-identity, the presence of this condition of unhappiness and suffering.
Reality of life reveals itself when we accept the end of the continuity of the past, in this mindset where this experiencer is present, clinging, possessing, controlling... doing this with situations, positions, and people. Therefore, the presence of fear is inevitable when thought takes over all this psychological control within each of us. Contact with the Reality of Life lies in comprehending death, not physical death or material loss, but the comprehending of this psychological death, of the "I," of the ego. Allowing thoughts, which are basically images we have constructed about people, positions, and objects, allowing this thought pattern to dissolve, to disappear. This is the death of the "I," this is the death of the ego. Comprehending the Reality of life is comprehending the beauty of this psychological death of the "I."
Can we, in this life, discover death before this physical death? Can we psychologically detach ourselves from thought, to have a natural vision of material losses and also a very clear vision of the people we interact with every day, with whom we live, with whom we relate? Can we have a true vision, a true comprehension of the Nature of this Being, so that we can relate to these people, without attachments, without fears, desires, or controls? Without this fixation on emotional, sentimental, physical, or sexual fulfillment with them? Then, there will be a comprehension of life. In this comprehension lies the vision that everything disappears. Therefore, the comprehension of life is the comprehension of death. A life free of the "I," free of the ego, is a life free of attachments, desires, fears, and controls.
So, can we, in this life, comprehend death? Can we relate to death as we do with life? Can we comprehend... can we truly comprehend that there is no separation? The Truth about this requires a life free of the ego, a life free of the "I." So, Freedom, Bliss, and Love are present. and there is no control, attachment, fear, or desire in Love. Everything is life when Love is present. There is no one to lose something, because there is no one, there is no other thing. Clearly, we are here touching on something that is beyond ordinary experience, the ordinary knowledge of this mind, in which we were educated to live, conditioned to live. It is the presence of Awakening, it is the Realization of God, the Awareness of Life, the comprehension of death. Okay?
GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel, precisely on this topic of death. Nara made the following comment and asked: "Master, I lost someone I loved very much, and I feel an immense void. How can I look at this pain without running away from it?"
MG: You ask how to look at this void. There is no separation between this void and you! The idea of looking at this void is the illusion that there is a separation between this void and you. There is an illusion between this pain and you. It's not possible to look at this pain separate from the void. It's not possible to look at this void separate from this pain. You speak of an immense void and want to figure out how to look at this pain. There's no separation between this gaze and this pain, this pain and this immense void. The idea of being able to look at the void to get rid of this pain or to look at this pain to get rid of this void, is an illusion. This is still part of the game of thought itself, creating a separation. When you're sad, there's no you sad. When you're worried, there's no you worried. When you're in pain, there's no you and the pain... The pain is you! The worry is you, the sadness is you. There isn't a separation between this present state and someone present in that state. This is the old game, this is the old trick, this is the old trick of the mind. It separates itself to do something with the experience, it creates this experiencer for that experience. So, it says: "Get rid of the experience and you'll be fine!"
There is no real separation between pain and someone in pain, sadness and someone sad, because there is no such thing as "I" and "non-I." We are faced with a single phenomenon! Therefore, look at the pain, but not from someone's perspective. Simply assume the Reality of this perspective, the pain within pain, don't separate yourself! And you will realize that thought is constructing a story, a story based on memory. This very thought is the thinker itself. This very experience based on memory, which are these remembrances, is the very element that separates itself to resist, to fight, to remain in what should be, in what could have been. This is the game, this is the mind's trick. Thus, this state maintains itself because it is sustained by an element that separates itself to maintain its continuity. The rejection of what is, is for what should be, is for what could have been. It is the presence of thought in the form of this experiencer, this thinker, that feeds this pain and sustains this void. Allow this void, this pain, to be there; don't separate yourself. A deep approach to the experience without the experiencer is the end of experience. One very common thing is the illusion within us-the desire to get rid of something without the awareness that it is there, that it is present. Become aware of the fact, become aware of the experience, of what is present... Do not embrace separation, because it is not real; do not resist this moment, or you will be sustaining this ego-identity, this illusion of someone to free oneself from.
In general, this movement within us, of wanting to free ourselves, is very unconscious. Even when we look, we want to look to free ourselves; and there's the "I," there's the ego. The presence of the vision of the truth of what is here liberates. It liberates because it liberates this state, because it's a state that's rooted in the past, in memory, in thought. The end of thought is the end of this feeling, this emotion, this sensation, because the end of thought is the end of this separation between you and experience, between this thought creating this thinker. To investigate this further, join an online meeting. We need to get closer to the truth about who we are to go beyond this "I," to go beyond this ego.
GC: Master, we have another question, also on the topic of death, where Leonardo makes the following comment and asks: "When I think about my death, I feel anxious, I feel bad. Is there a way to embrace this thought without being dominated by it?"
MG: Pay close attention to what you say. You say, "When I think about my death, I feel bad," and you also ask how to embrace this thought. Observe the presence of fear. Become aware of the presence of fear, and it will become clear that there is no fear without thought. It is when you think about your death, not when the thought is not there, that you feel bad, you feel bad when thought is there. There is no separation between the thought of death and this state you call "a bad state," "a terrible state." It is essential that we comprehend what thought is. The basis for fear is the presence of thought; without thought, there is no fear. You talk about embracing the thought. Is there a separation between this element that will embrace thought and thought itself? Isn't this element that embraces thought the thinker itself? Isn't it the person, isn't it this "me," isn't it this "I" that wants to embrace fear? But is there a separation between this fear and this "I"? Is there a real separation between this thought and this thinker, between this thought and this element that wants to embrace it?
The fact is that the presence of thought is the presence of the thinker. The presence of thought is the presence of fear. So, what is the answer for solving this problem? How to put an end to this problem? Be aware that there is no separation; assume the truth that there is no separation, that there is no one who can embrace this state of unease, this fear. Do not separate yourself, do not seek to free yourself, do not think about embracing. All of this is part of the game of thought itself. It is the foundation, the basis of this state. It is the comprehension of non-separation, of non-division, it is the look without the observer, it is the perceiving without the perceiver, it is being aware without someone, without this "me," without this "I," that puts an end to this state, this fear, this thought.
This contact with death, here, that makes you feel bad... Notice, you are only in contact with thought! It is the idea of death, it is the imagination of death, it is the future for this "I," the presence of fear. But the future, this death, this imagination, is the very presence of the "I." When thought arises, just look, don't react, don't get involved. Then, there will be no one to welcome, no one to fear. When this happens, there is the end of this condition, there is the end of this state, because thought cannot sustain itself in this observation without the observer. The truth about this death that makes you fear is the truth of a thought that projects itself into the future from a thinker, an observer, an experiencer. This is the root of fear, this is the root of this state, this condition, this malaise.
Here we are with you working on this matter of Self-awareness, which is becoming aware of our reactions, without getting involved with them. Then, the sense of "I" ends; this illusion of identity that thinks, feels, and does, ends. Real Life is the Life where Reality is present beyond thought and, therefore, beyond the "I." This is Real Life; and in this Real Life there is no separation between life and death, between someone alive and someone to die, between someone alive and someone dying; because there is no such someone, no such "me," no such "I." So, just observe your reactions and don't get involved. It's not about someone doing something or not doing something. It's precisely about this awareness that we are merely facing a movement, the movement of thought, and when it doesn't receive continuity, because there is no intention, motivation, or interest in doing something with thought, it disappears. Therefore, this is the end of continuity. At that moment, the end for this so-called particular "death" or this particular "life" of this "me," this "I" takes place. Okay?
GC: Thank you, Master, our time is over now. Thank you for this videocast. And for those of you who are following along and truly want to experience these truths, we invite you to participate in the intensive sessions hosted by Master Gualberto. In these meetings, besides the Master directly answering our questions, something much more powerful and profound happens. Because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, He shares a field of Presence that is pure Power and Grace. And in these sessions, we end up carried by Master's Energy field. And, carried along by the Master, we naturally and spontaneously enter the meditative state, can quiet our minds, and gain insight and comprehension beyond all limitations of intellectual understanding. So, the invitation remains. In the first pinned comment, there is the WhatsApp link to participate in these meetings. And, once again, Master, thank you for the videocast.
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