May 19, 2026

Joel Goldsmith | The Foundation of Mysticism | What is the conditioned mind? | Marcos Gualberto

GC: Hello, everyone! We're here for another videocast, Master Gualberto is here with us again. Thank you, Master, for your presence. Today I'm going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called "The Foundation of Mysticism." In one excerpt from this book, Master, Joel makes the following comment: "The spiritual life is yielding to the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God is a renunciation of desires." In this excerpt, Joel comments on the renunciation of desires. Regarding this topic, Master, can you share your perspective on the conditioned mind?

MG: Gilson, what is the instrument within us of perception, understanding, and comprehension? Isn't it the presence of what we call the "mind"? Isn't the mind within us the instrument that perceives, understands, and comprehends? Now, what is this comprehension? What do we really have as comprehension, or understanding, or perception of life? Is it true that the way you look at life, describes, reports, and faithfully portrays what life means, what life represents? Our model of consciousness, which we call the "conscious and unconscious mind," is the presence of this instrument, which looks from a background it brings, from a condition in which, as an instrument, it finds itself.

And what is this condition? What do you know about life? What do we know about life? What do we know about others? What do we know about ourselves? Isn't it a set of ideas? When we collect or gather together a huge number of thoughts, concepts, beliefs, we have the presence of an idea. A set of ideas is what we, in the mind, in this background, have about life, about others, and about ourselves. And all this content is basically, within us, memory, remembrance. It is the presence of experiences recorded within us, it is the presence of thought.

So, what is this conditioned mind? It's the presence of an instrument incapable of dealing with the reality of life as it is, because all this instrument has is the past, memory, and remembrances. We have life here, the reality of life in expression, but we also have the presence of thought about it. The thought about this is the conditioned mind. We're not dealing with life; we're projecting an ideal of life, a thought about life. That's how we function. You see the world from your conclusions, evaluations, and beliefs... You see the world from a political, philosophical, or religious perspective, from a family tradition, from the history of the country where you were born. This is conditioning!

What we are here, discussing with you, investigating with you, is the possibility of abandoning this, of freeing ourselves from this conditioning, from the conditioned mind, from the conditioned, programmed thought pattern, because it is preventing us from a true relation with life. The true relation with life is not the relation of someone, it is not the relation of this "I," this person, this mind. The conditioned mind is synonymous with a person programmed to think, to feel, to act in life based on this program, this background. Breaking with this is the emergence of what is present here beyond this situation, this condition. And yet, what is present remains unknown.

Contact with reality is the end of the illusion of what we comprehend, understand, and judge to be real. What we understand, comprehend, and judge to be real in life is based on this old structure, which is the structure of the conditioned mind; it is not reality. Contact with reality is contact with the Unknown. The presence of the Unknown is the presence of this Being, this Divine Reality. Reality is present, but it remains outside the mind. How can we access this? By becoming aware of the Unknown, abandoning the illusion of interpreting life, of judgment, of comparison, of evaluating life based on the past, based on thought. That is the answer!

We need a new brain, a free mind, a perception without the past. Our form of perception is not real, it is the perception of a perceiver; this perceiver within us is the person we are. And what is this person we are? This set of ideas! All conclusions, beliefs, judgments, concepts, opinions. That's always something personal in this conditioned brain, this conditioned mind. It is the pattern of thought that looks from the thinker's perspective. The eyes that see life are the eyes of this observer-this observer is the "I"!

The acknowledgment of reality is Reality assuming this space. There is no separation between the reality present and the Truth of Being, therefore we no longer have the eyes of the observer, the gaze of the observer, we no longer have the perception of the perceiver; it is the presence of Divine Reality in the acknowledgment of life, in the awareness of Being. Comprehending this, perceiving this, assuming this, is not something for "someone"; it is something possible when the Reality of this Being, which is Divine Truth, shows itself present. It requires the end of the illusion of the conditioned mind, of the way we are feeling, acting, thinking, and acting in life.

The old way of acting here, of thinking here, always follows the same principle of this consciousness common to all, which is egoic consciousness, which is human consciousness. To let go of that is to go beyond this condition. Truth is present when illusion is no longer there, the Divine is present when this idea of ??someone seeing oneself as separate, seeing oneself apart, seeing oneself as someone in the world, no longer exists. This is what we are, here with you, working on. So, a new mind, a new brain, a new heart, Something is present-this Something is the presence of the Unknown, of that which is indescribable, which is the Truth of God.

GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel who left the following comment: "Master, I feel like my desires are controlling me. I spend all day thinking about what I want and what I don't have. How can I free myself from that?"

MG: Gilson, when desires control us, when you say, "I spend much of the day desiring, wanting what I don't have," who is under the control of desires? Who is this element present that is desiring what one doesn't have? What is the Truth about the "I"? You see a great conflict between the desires you have and the person you are. This conflict is established precisely because of another desire, which is the desire to stop being as you are. Therefore, you have the conflict between the desire to possess what you don't have, to achieve what you haven't achieved... this desire in conflict with the desire to stop being this way, to no longer want to be this way. The basis of the mind within us is the basis of the "I," of the ego-this is the element that is in contradiction, in the conflict of desires, in the conflict between desires.

We have been educated, molded, into a cultural pattern where the belief is that by fulfilling desires, you will be happy... but there comes a time when we want to free ourselves from desires, and this becomes another desire, one that clashes with the desire to have, with the desire to possess. We place this condition of the thinker, the experiencer, this "I," into thought, in this model of becoming. We are living in this conflict because we don't look at our reactions. We need to free ourselves from the illusion of the idea of ??"someone." It is the idea of ??someone present; that is what imprisons us in desire, including the desire to free ourselves. So, all that is needed to end the conflict, to end suffering, is the awareness of this "I." Just acknowledge, be aware, become aware of your reactions, be conscious of your desires, including this desire to free yourself from desires. Look at that!

Any and all movement-and this is the pattern of behavior within us- it is always a movement to free ourselves or to achieve. Achieving the result of freeing ourselves from desires-which is another desire-or obtaining freedom from desires. This "obtaining" is still a purpose, still a target or another desire. Here, looking at our reactions is becoming aware of how the mind is functioning; then you become aware of this "I," of this one who wants to free oneself, this one who wants to achieve. Then, it vanishes. It is the presence of this learning about ourselves that is the end for this internal condition of an identity present, moving with purposes. As long as desire is present, the one in desire will separate oneself from it to do something: either to pursue what one longs for, what one desires, or to free oneself from that same desire, and all of this is still the movement of the ego itself, of the "I" itself.

There is no separation between desire and the "I"; it creates this separation when it places this "achieving," this "becoming," this "obtaining," or this "getting rid of." Looking at this requires paying attention to our reactions. Thus, we break with the "I," we break with the ego; then Something new is present. This new Something is not part of the "I," not part of this condition of purpose to achieve or purpose to get rid of, desire to obtain or fear of not achieving. Fear is another aspect of desire itself, the same as suffering and conflict. The comprehension of ourselves is the end of this "I."

We must investigate the Truth about this person we are. For us, desire is the problem; the reality of the problem is this one in the problem. This one in the problem is inseparable from desire-it is the presence of the "I," the presence of desire, the presence of the problem. Looking at our reactions, looking at each and every movement of thought, feeling, emotion, this longing or yearning for more-looking is the end of this, the end of the "I," the end of desire. Okay?

GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel, who commented the following: "Marcos, how to go beyond 'liking' and 'disliking'?"

MG: Gilson, this "liking" or "disliking," "wanting" or "not wanting," is the presence of thought. When thought moves within you, it moves in projection. The presence of thought is a movement, within us, between past and future. Every thought here and now, appearing, is a portrait of the past. Therefore, we are engaged with what the past represents when thought is here. Sometimes thought, here, projects itself into the future. The whole interest of thought in us is continuity, maintenance, and the perpetuation of its presence. Notice how fundamental it is for us to understand this: when you have a thought, it's not satisfied with simply appearing, it has to continue itself. It maintains its continuity by reinforcing the past; it maintains its continuity by projecting itself into the future-that's how thought works.

So, we always live within a constant model of acceptance or rejection, of like or dislike, of seeking something in the future, of freeing ourselves from something from the past. This is the movement of the mind within us, this is the movement of consciousness, of the presence of the "I." You ask how to free yourself from this "like" or "dislike"... The very idea of ??freeing yourself, the very purpose of freeing yourself, must be investigated. We are still faced with a thought when we believe we can attain this Freedom in the future: the Freedom to want or not to want, to like or dislike.

Here, the vision of the comprehension of thought is fundamental; then, it ends. And when it ends, this choice ends, this idea of ??someone present drawing conclusions, making evaluations, deciding whether to want or not; this disappears due to the presence of the comprehension that thought is merely a memory. We are giving to a memory-which is the present thought, which is arising here-an identity. We are constantly placing the person, the "I," and we do this based on intention-the intention to obtain or the intention to get rid of; the intention to like or dislike. This intention places an identity present in the memory-which is thought that is appearing here, at this moment-an identity, an identity that comes from the past. This identity projects itself into the future; it requires thought for this movement. We do not have "coming to be"; we have, here, the Reality of Being.

The presence of this "becoming" is the presence of the "I," the "person," this "me." Every thought within you seeks "coming to be." This "ceasing to be" is also part of this movement, which is the movement of thought-a movement that, I repeat, is present because the "I" is present. When we pay attention to this moment, this attention brings a vision of the instant that eliminates this intention, that eliminates this "I." Every time you are attentive, this attention is something that, when present, this conscious sense of "I" is absent! Become aware of this, observe this within yourself: when you are in a moment of full attention, the sense of this conscious "I," which is the movement of thought, does not enter. Thought does not project itself into the future and it completely loses the importance of what it has to say about the past, when we bring this attention to this moment. This attention is something that is present here, but we do not have the presence of this "conscious I," this conscious or unconscious mind. There is Something that transcends the presence of the one who chooses to like or dislike.

Therefore, the true way to approach life is without "someone" in this approach. Then, Truth-the Truth of Being-is revealed. This is Liberation, this is the Freedom to live free from this egoic sense of like or dislike. Okay?

GC: Gratitude, Master, our time is up now. Thank you for this videocast. And for those of you who are following along and truly desire to experience these truths, we invite you to participate in the meetings that Master Gualberto offers. These are intensive weekend meetings available online, in-person, and also as retreats. These meetings are much more profound than the videos here on YouTube. First, because the Master answers our questions live, and second-and much more impactful-is that, because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, He shares a field of Presence around himself, a field of Energy, Power, and Grace. And, in these meetings, we end up taking a ride on this field of the Master's Presence. And, by taking this ride with the Master, spontaneously, effortlessly, without any technique or practice, we enter the Meditative State, quieting our minds, and gaining a vision, a true comprehension of the topics discussed here on the channel.

So, here's the invitation: in the first pinned comment, you'll find the WhatsApp link to join these meetings. Also, please give a "like" to the video, subscribe to the channel, and leave comments here, asking questions for us to add to future videocasts. And, Master, once again, thank you for the videocast.

September, 2025
Gravatá-PE, Brazil
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