GC: Hello everyone, we're here for another videocast. Master Gualberto is with us again. Thank you, Master, for being here.
Master, today I'm going to read an excerpt from a book by Joel Goldsmith called: "Leave Your Nets." In an excerpt from this book, Master, Joel makes the following comment: "As you have been stripped of your material possessions and clothed with the mantle of God, so now you will find security, goodness, and satisfaction only in the Divine Mantle." In this excerpt, Joel comments on finding security in the mantle of God. On this subject, can the Master share your vision on how we can get rid of suffering?
MG: Gilson, on this issue of suffering, observing, looking closely at it, is fundamental. When you tell me, when you speak to me, when you tell me about suffering... if it's here, look closely at it. When you say, "I have to free myself from this suffering," what are you actually talking about? Something that's here right now or something you sometimes feel? What is the truth about suffering? What is the truth about the person who suffers? Is there a separation, when suffering is present, between the person who suffers and the suffering? The answer is very simple. When you speak to me of suffering, are you talking about a suffering that is here or a suffering that sometimes happens? Are you talking to me about a memory or are you portraying a present suffering?
Is the portrayal of present suffering the presence of real suffering, is it here, or is it the idea of ??a suffering that may appear at some point, or that has already been here at some point? The investigation of the nature of suffering, Gilson, puts us in direct contact with what is. What is - is the presence of suffering. But, when suffering is present, there is no separation between the idea of ??suffering and suffering. The idea of ??suffering is someone's idea of ??suffering. The presence of suffering is not someone's idea - the presence of suffering is the presence of the one who suffers. This is not an idea, it is not a concept, it is not a theory.
We need, first of all, to have a clear discernment of this: when suffering is present, no one is present to have an idea about suffering. When suffering is present, the one who suffers is the suffering. Suffering is the one who suffers. There is no separation between the sufferer and the suffering. We are faced with the same one experience. Why is this comprehension crucial? Because, in general, we are stuck with a mere verbal, conceptual, intellectual understanding of the subject.
When you say, "I need to free myself from suffering," I ask you: what suffering are you talking about? There you have a report of suffering. You tell me the story of suffering. You say what you feel about suffering. This description is the description of the intellect, of thought; it is the presence of the mind speaking of suffering.
If we truly want the awareness of truth, of liberation from suffering, which represents the end of suffering, it is necessary to comprehend that there is no separation between the sufferer and suffering when it is present. This is where we encounter the possibility of comprehension of the truth about this sufferer. It is the presence of the one who suffers the very presence of suffering. We cannot speak of someone suffering without the truth of suffering. And that is exactly what we have been doing: we speak of someone suffering when suffering is not there. But when suffering is not there, there is no suffering. We are merely using an abstraction-a theory, a concept, a belief, a foundation of history and memory.
Elimination of pain requires the comprehension of pain. Comprehension of pain is the end of pain. And this pain ends. When it ends, there is no one in pain. We need to comprehend the presence of truth, of non-separation, of non-duality between pain and the one in pain. When you are sad, there is no "you sad." You may speak to me of sadness, but that is not "you" sad, it is the story of someone who has been sad, of someone who will be sad. This story is the presence of thought. This is how we are living in thought-whether in the past or in the future. Thought is the portrait, it is not the thing. Thought is the figure, it is not the thing; It is the image, not the thing. The thing itself is the pain, the suffering, this malaise, this discomfort, this grief.
We don't know how to deal with the present moment because we are dealing with the present moment in abstraction, in theory, in concept, in idea. Thus, we separate ourselves from the present moment because of the theory we have, the belief, the concept we bring. Therefore, if we truly want liberation from suffering, we must comprehend that there is no separation between the one who suffers and suffering. When there is no one who suffers, there is no suffering. When there is no suffering, there is no one to speak of suffering. The true way of a direct approach to suffering is without the idea, without the concept, without the belief. Come closer and look-without the idea, without thought, without the story-at this pain, this grief, this suffering. Do this.
In the moment of pain, of suffering, there is only pain. Don't put someone in charge of getting rid of it. Don't tell a story about it to justify, explain, or find a way to get rid of it. In general, we are constantly running away from pain because we are searching for paths. This alternative path is a distancing from pain through a thinker, an experiencer, through a concept, an idea, a belief. When we do this, we don't free ourselves from pain, because we maintain continuity of this element that is constantly separating itself from the experience. The experience is the pain; the experiencer is this element-it is the "I," the ego.
What we learn in life, what we have been trained to do in this contact with pain, is to run away. It is to escape. And we confuse this escape with "getting rid of the pain." The end result is that we are constantly experiencing moments of suffering and never truly free ourselves from it. We don't free ourselves because we don't free ourselves from the illusion of this "I," this sufferer. We are running away, escaping. There is no real contact, no real confrontation, no direct gaze. It is always based on beliefs, ideas, concepts, formulas, paths, to deny, justify, explain, rationalize the presence of suffering, the presence of pain.
What does it mean to approach life? It is to approach what is here. This approach is not the approach someone makes-it is the approach of the realization that there is no separation between what is here revealing itself and the one to whom it reveals itself. This is our real contact, the real confrontation, the direct comprehension of experience. It occurs when we do not place the experiencer, the thinker, the one with ideas, the one with something to say.
Our great invitation to life is to embrace the Reality of Life without someone present who separates oneself from it to choose between pleasure and pain, between joy and sadness. Getting closer to oneself requires the presence of this gaze, this observation, this perception, without these choices, without these thought directions, and therefore, without the past, without this thinker. Thus, we look at the present moment beyond thought, beyond this idea, the concept, and abstraction. The sense of "I" is eliminated, and when it is eliminated, there is no suffering.
Thus, the answer to your question-"How to get rid of suffering?"-is: get in direct contact with the moment, without the presence of the experiencer. Then, experience dissolves. Suffering disappears, because there is no longer the presence of the sufferer. This requires Self-awareness. This requires the presence of Meditation. This requires a Real contact with Life as It Is.
GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel, who made the following comment: "Master, I'm very afraid of losing the things I've achieved-my job, my stability. How do I face this fear?"
MG: Look, Gilson, this fear of losing what you've achieved is present in the illusion that you are someone who has things, who has achieved things. Look at yourself. We have absolutely nothing in life. What we have, for example, as the most intimate is the presence of the body. But is this body yours? Do you actually control it? Do you determine its health, its well-being? What do you determine for the body? What do you control?
We have no control over life, over health, over our heartbeat. We carry, Gilson, the illusion of an identity that sees itself present-and, because it sees itself present using what is around it and what life has provided it, it believes it exists as someone separate from life and possessing these things. There is no such person. It is not real.
The person you are, with the life you have, in the control you exert-all of this is entirely false. What is present is Life. There is no one having things, possessing things, having control over them. Everything just happens. Everything just arises, stays for a while, and disappears-in Life, not in a person's particular life, because there is no such thing as a person with their own particular life. It is the presence of thought within you telling this whole story-the story of being someone who possesses things, has achieved things, and can lose things. Therein lies the root, the cause of fear.
You want to get rid of fear, but you haven't yet comprehended that your fear is you. There is no separation between you and fear. Therefore, free yourself from the illusion of someone present. Then, things will remain there-or will go away-but there will be no one left to deal with them, to occupy themselves, to worry, to think about them, and therefore, to fear.
Liberation, in this life, is the awareness that there is no such thing as "I" and that this life is not the life of the person, but rather Divine Life. We are faced with a game in which things arrive and then move away, approach and move away. The body is born and dies. Objects arrive and disappear. There is no "someone." There is no "I." There is no person. All of this is within imagination, within thought-and we are living in thought. The illusion of someone is the idea of ??the person. Let go of that, and fear ends. Suffering ends. And the illusion of attachment or detachment also ends.
Some people talk about detachment of things. Your big problem is not things. You can be surrounded by all sorts of things and, at the same time, not be psychologically present, internally, carrying this sense of "I," of ego, present, in the midst of it all. Therefore, it is not about detaching, or getting rid of, or protecting or defending yourself so as not to lose things. Here, it's about freeing yourself from illusion-from this center that is the "I," the ego, which finds itself in the middle of all this. Your fear is you, the person, the "I," the ego. What we're working with you here is precisely that: the end of this illusion, this illusory condition, this egoic mind.
GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel. He made the following comment: "Master, how can I realize that life in the ego is an illusion? Everything seems so real."
MG: Once again, Gilson, the question is: How to realize this? How to perceive this illusion, is that it? The question is: How to get rid of this illusion? By becoming aware. It's necessary to have clarity, lucidity, vision, perception. It's this comprehension. It's the clarity of this look at how reactions occur within you and outside of you-and this will show you that life is like this: there is no one in life. There is Life, the presence of the perception of Life as It is. In It, there is no one.
When a thought is present and observed, and you don't get confused by it, neither accept nor reject it, it dissolves. It doesn't remain. Any continuity of thought within you requires the presence of inattention to that thought. This is how we give continuity to the ego's sense. It lives in the model of thought about itself, about others, and about life. This is the ego's illusion. But when you pay attention to thought-looking without interfering-it loses its importance, it loses its value, it loses the energy of intention, desire, fear, and continuity. This is how we eliminate time. This is how we truly deal with life. This occurs when we don't place the experiencer, the "I," the element of intention, the person.
A direct comprehension of how the mind works, feelings too, and sensations occur, emotions arise; how it all processes: emotions arising, thoughts, and sensations. A direct look, without interfering with what is happening within you, just as with what is happening externally. At this moment, Life begins to reveal itself without the "I," without the person. The foundation lies in comprehending ourselves, in perceiving how we function, how Life is unfolding.
The presence of Self-awareness opens up this space for the comprehension of Meditation. And in it, there is no longer the "I," no longer the ego, no longer the meditator. Here, the presence of Meditation is not what some out there understand as meditation. It is the acknowledgment of Life in this moment, without the past, without the "I." Participating in online meetings, in-person meetings, is fundamental.
Therefore, our Real contact with Life is the truth of a real contact, here and now, with this Being, with Divine Reality. You, in your Real Nature, are the Truth of God. It is the presence of this Freedom, this absence of the past. It is the presence of thought that maintains the continuity of the past for the thinker; the continuity of the past for the one who has lived experiences-the experiencer; the continuity of the element that observes from ideas, concepts, beliefs, and evaluations-which is the presence of the observer.
The discovery of Reality about this is the nullification of the continuity of this pattern of behavior of the egoic mind, of the conditioned mind, of the life of the "I," of life in the ego. The discovery consists of a look, a perception, a direct verification that Life is the Only Reality present. There is no room in It for this illusion. This arises because of thought, the error of thought, the illusory suggestion of thought. Looking at this is the end of this condition. It is clear that this requires work on oneself, which is what we are proposing here in the online and in-person meetings.
GC: Gratitude, gratitude, Master. Our time has come to an end. Gratitude for this videocast.
And for those of you who are following along and truly desire to experience these truths, we invite you to participate in the meetings that Master Gualberto offers. These are intensive weekend sessions. These meetings are much more profound and transformative than these videos here on YouTube.
First, because the Master answers our questions live. And second, and much more impactful, is that, because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, He shares a field of presence around himself, a field of energy, power, and Grace. And in these meetings, we are carried by this field of Master's presence. And, by being carried by the Master, spontaneously, effortlessly, without any technique, we enter the meditative state, quiet our minds, and can have a glimpse, a vision, a comprehension of the topics discussed here on the channel.
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