GC: Hello, everyone! We are here for another videocast. Once again, Master Gualberto is here with us. Thank you, Master, for being here.
Today, I am going to read an excerpt from Joel Goldsmith's book called "Awakening Mystical Consciousness." In an excerpt from this book, Master, Joel makes the following comment: "Fear dominates humanity, because, instilled in the human mind, it makes man forget that God is his own life." In this excerpt, Joel mentions the issue of fear. Can the Master share his vision on how we can overcome fear?
MG: Gilson, this old idea of ??defeating, conquering, overcoming is the most common thing! When we come across an enemy, we want to defeat the enemy; we want to overcome the enemy. So, we see fear as something to be defeated, to be overcome. We do not investigate the nature, the structure, the truth of what we call fear. We don't comprehend, Gilson, a basic thing that we have been putting here for you: if there is fear, there is an element present in this fear. This element is the element affected by fear. But what is the truth of fear? What is the structure of fear? What is this reality of fear? That is the first question. The second is: who is this element affected by fear, who wants to get rid of fear, who wants to overcome fear? Is there a real separation, when this state that we call fear is present, from the one who is in fear, from the one who wants to get rid of fear, who wants to overcome fear? Is there a separation or is the presence of fear the presence of this element?
When you use the pronoun "I," who exactly are you referring to? You are referring to yourself. You are not referring to the other, you are referring to yourself. What is the truth of this "yourself?" What is the truth of this "I"? And when fear is present, who is it that is afraid? Is it not the "I"? Is it not this "self"? But is there a separation of the state of fear itself from that which is the "I"? When you are afraid, is there a separation between you and the fear, or in that state of fear you are the state itself? So, let's start here. When you feel fear, you are that feeling. There is no you and the feeling, it's just the feeling! When the feeling diminishes or when it disappears, you have a memory or a sensation. When you have a sensation because fear has diminished, this sensation gives you the illusion of a separation between you and fear. When fear is gone and you have a remembrance, you have the sensation that now you have fear; it is already gone. This sensation of separation between you and fear does not occur at the exact moment of the pain when it is there, of this grief when it is there, of this suffering when it is there, of this emotion of fear when fear is there. There is no separation between you and fear.
So, this is the first thing. So, Gilson, we are faced with an illusion: the illusion of someone who wants to overcome fear, but this someone does not exist. When fear is present, there is only the presence of fear. It is when fear is no longer present, when the feeling has diminished, that thought creates this separation, creating this entity that is the "me," the "I," with fear, in fear. So, this is the first thing: What is the nature of the "I"? The nature of the "I" is that which is present here, showing itself, but we do not realize the nature of the "I," because we separate ourselves, based on thought, to talk about an experience that has already happened. See how we need to have a new approach to this issue - see, it is not about overcoming fear, it is not about getting rid of fear, but an approach to the end of this psychological condition of the "I," which is the psychological condition of the emotional state of pain, of suffering, of fear.
Therefore, all our interest here consists in the end of fear, but the end of fear means the end of this element that is the "I." You cannot be afraid without existing as someone. You cannot be afraid if you do not exist for fear. You only talk about a fear within a relation between you and the emotion, between you and that painful state, between you and that frightening state; so, there is you and fear. This "you and fear" is within this principle of separation. This separation does not exist, this separation between you and fear is something that thought is producing. So, notice what an important thing is present. What is the nature of fear? The nature of fear is thought itself. What is the nature of the "I"? It is thought itself. What are you afraid of? It is what you remember that causes you fear. You cannot be afraid without the memory of that which causes you fear. And if you have the memory of that which causes you fear, what there is, is just an abstraction. So, there is you and the fear of death, but death is not here. What there is about death is an idea, it is a thought.
Notice where the structure, the nature of fear is: the structure, the nature of fear is in thought. You are afraid of being betrayed; this is in the future, this is in thought. You are afraid of going through that situation again that you once experienced; this is a thought about the future, about the past. So, it is the notion of thought about past and future that causes fear. You are afraid of getting old. See, this is the future and it is the presence of thought.
All the forms of fear that you have - all of them! - are linked to thought. So, the nature of fear, the structure of fear, is thought, and this present element, which is the "I," which is this "me." But when does this "me" also appear? Isn't it when thought appears? When you remember something that happened to you - here is the presence of the "I" -, when you don't want that to happen again - here is the presence of thought projecting itself into the future. So, you come to me and ask, "How to get rid of fear?" or "How to overcome fear?" or "How to conquer fear?"... To investigate the nature of the "I," the nature of fear, the nature of thought, is the end of thought, the end of the "I," the end of fear, because there is the end of the past, because there is no longer the burden of remembrance. There is the end of the future, there is no longer the thought of what will be. The end of the thought of the past, the end of the thought of the future. This is the end of time, this is the end of fear, this is the end of thought, this is the end of the "I"!
You may ask, "Then, what is the Awakening of Consciousness?" It is the Flourishing of your Divine Nature. This Awareness of your Being is the Awareness of God, That which is present here and now, free from thought, free from the "I," free from time, free from fear. There is something present, as we have always said, and this "something" present is outside the past, the present and the future. This "something" is the Reality of your Being.
It is something beyond all things, it is a "something" beyond anything. It is that which is indescribable, beyond all names, all forms; the Divine Reality! This is the end of illusion; this is the end of ignorance. This is the end not only of fear, but also the end of suffering. You were born for this Realization, you were born to assume That, to live That in this life! This is what we are with you, here, deepening, working on, becoming aware of. In this life, the Awareness of Life, free from this "me," this "I," which lives in the past, is fundamental. We need to discover what it is to die to the past, to die psychologically to what was, then there will be no future. The end of the past is the end of the future, it is the Awareness of Reality that is outside of thought, outside of time, it is the awareness of God!
GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel. Raquel asks the following question: "Master, and when there is depression and anxiety, how can we get rid of it?"
MG: Gilson, notice the question: "When there is depression and anxiety, how can we get rid of it?" To become aware of your reactions, get close to them, find out how to get closer to this reaction, to look at it. When we have a problem, we can only deal with the problem by getting closer to it, and not by moving away from it. We can move a problem away from us; there are several ways to do this, and that is what we have been doing. We prefer to move away from the problem or move it away from us rather than getting closer to look at it. So, I ask you: when you move away from a problem, does it no longer exist or is it there, somewhere, hidden to come back again? When you move away from a problem, or it is moved away from you, does it stop being there somewhere, lurking, watching? No, it is there! That is why, Gilson, we do not get rid of problems, because we do not become aware of them!
When you get closer to a problem, the problem can reveal itself, it can show itself, it can present itself, because you are close to it, looking at it, discovering what it represents. So, yes, from that moment on, in this approach, we have the possibility of ending the problem. We are not running away, we are not escaping, we are not moving away from it; we are getting closer to it to take a closer look. When we learn to look at the problem, because we get closer to it, we discover that there is no separation between the problem and "me." It is precisely this "me" that is the problem. Until then, we thought we had a problem, and now we realize that the idea that we had a problem is not true. The truth is that "I" am the problem. This "I" is the state of affliction, of suffering, of pain; it is the state of emotional disorder, of restlessness, that is present. By rejecting this state, I separate myself to do something against it. By doing this, we are feeding an illusion: the illusion that there is "me" and this state.
This separation, Gilson, this duality, this idea: "me and sadness"... Notice, there is no "me" and sadness! When sadness is present, what is present is sadness; there is no such thing as this sad "me." When anguish, anxiety, depression are present, there is no such thing as this depressed "me." It is just depression! This separation is something that thought, within you, is creating, in this old belief of "me and the problem," "me and anxiety," "me and depression." Here, we are putting something else to you: get closer to the own state, become aware, just look at this thought, this feeling, this state. To discover how to look without rejecting, without fighting against, without also affirming it as being real for this "me"... Just look! To look without interfering, look to become aware, look to perceive. Then, at that moment - ??I say again -, the problem, the state, reveals itself.
What is happening in this looking without someone looking, in this perceiving without someone perceiving, in this approaching without someone approaching, is a realization of the end of this condition of separation. Then, a new quality of energy arises in this perceiving, in this looking, in this being aware of that. A new quality of energy arises, and when this occurs, in that instant, there is the end of separation between this "I" and the state. And what happens to this state? It does not sustain itself! See, exactly that: it does not sustain itself. It has been sustaining itself, it has been sustaining itself due to this non-observation, this non-approach, this attempt to free oneself, to escape, to do something against the state. What we are addressing here and now, Gilson, is the real approach to Self-awareness. This is something directly linked to this approach to Meditation. Becoming aware of the reaction without getting involved with it, this represents the end of this reaction, of this psychological condition; this is the end of this state.
See, the real way to approach life is through this way of looking, through this way of becoming aware, through this way of being conscious, without the involvement of this "me," this "I," this observer, this one who wants to get involved to do something against it, when the state is bad or unpleasant. So, Gilson, it is essential that we learn to approach life without the "me," without this observer, without this experiencer, without this one who wants to experience or wants to get rid of it. That is what we are working on here with you, discovering how to approach this moment without the past, without this background, without this element to interfere. That is how we deal with each and every state linked to this psychological condition, which is the condition of this "I," "I-state," "I" and anxiety, fear, depression... But this also applies to so-called "positive" states, which reinforce this illusory identity that is the ego, which is the "I." That is for another talk, ok? But this is the real approach. That is how we approach it.
GC: Master, we have another question from another subscriber here on the channel. Emília makes the following comment and asks: "Hello, Master. Can you talk about the power of thought to create the ego and all the problems associated with it? Does this happen at the brain level?"
MG: Gilson, this support of this element that is the "I," the ego, is the support of the mechanical, automatic, unconscious, repetitive, and conditioned movement of the brain itself. There is no separation between this brain conditioning and this movement of separation from the reality of life as it happens. This movement of separation is something psychological, but this entire psychological movement is clearly related to the way this conditioned brain, this conditioned intellect, is processing all of this.
So, the condition of the unawareness of thought, of the lack of awareness of its movement, causes the brain to continue making its records and sustaining this continuity of the past, and this occurs due to the lack of this attention, of this look at these reactions. So, yes, the entire movement of mental conditioning is closely, directly linked to this model of conditioned brain. Only when this conditioned brain pattern is no longer present, because of the presence of this attention, does the brain no longer continue to maintain its old condition of automatism, of unconsciousness, of automatic recording.
Thus, the beauty of this encounter with this looking at this moment, with this observing of this moment - ??of all these reactions, paying full attention to it - the beauty of this is that, in this moment, there is a break in this continuity of automatic, mechanical, unconscious recording pattern. This represents the end for this conditioned intellect, for this conditioned mind. Reality is present, something new is present, something outside of this old, ancient pattern of mental conditioning, of brain conditioning.
A life free from psychological time is a life free from a conditioned brain, from a brain that automatically, mechanically, and unconsciously records everything it is going through. This model is the model of a brain that has maintained, for millennia, a supposed entity present amidst experiences. That is why we maintain the illusion of this thinker, this experiencer, this observer. This illusion is present because this brain is conditioned, as coming into contact with the moment, to look at this moment from this record that is the experiencer, the thinker, the observer.
This subject requires a deep investigation, a direct, very clear approach to all of this, to put an end to this old model, and that is exactly what we are doing together in these meetings, especially online meetings and in-person meetings. The retreats are part of these meetings.
GC: Thank you, Master, our time is over. Thank you for this videocast. And for those of you who are following the videocast until the end and really want to delve deeper into these teachings, we invite you to participate in the meetings that Master Gualberto offers. These are online weekend meetings; there are also in-person meetings and multi-day retreats.
In these meetings, Master Gualberto answers our questions directly - and much more than that. Because the Master already lives in this Awakened State of Consciousness, he shares an energy field around him. And in these meetings, we end up taking a ride on the Master's energy. And this helps us a lot in this process of getting to know ourselves, entering into Meditation, and perceiving the incessant movement of thoughts...
So, here is the invitation. In the first comment, pinned, there is the WhatsApp link to be able to participate in these meetings.
And, Master, once again, thank you for the videocast.
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