Hello everyone! We are here for another videocast. Once again, Master Gualberto is here with us. Thank you, Master, for being here.
Master, today I am going to read an excerpt from Joel Goldsmith’s book called “Invisible Supply.” In an excerpt from this book, Joel Goldsmith says the following: “Knowing true statements about God and knowing God Himself are very different things.” Master, how can we know God?
MG: Gilson, that is a question… look at your question, it is a wonderful question! Now, are we ready for a direct, very clear, real answer to this question? Here, you have a photo of Ramana Maharshi. In this closeness with my Master, my teacher, this Revelation occurred.
One day someone asked him: “Master, how can I know God?” The answer was very direct. Ramana Maharshi’s answer was: “To know God is to be God.” So, see Gilson, that is the answer. You cannot know God, there is no way for you to get close to God, because there is no such thing as “you and Him.” The Reality of Life is Life, which is God! There is only God: that is Reality! This “you,” this sense of being someone, in order to know something, is an illusion.
Gilson, we lack the awareness of the Truth that there is only God, because there is psychological confusion, there is an internal disorder of thought movement within each one of us, creating this illusory sensation, sustaining this illusory sensation of a present identity, separate and apart from God, and asking questions about how to reach the Truth, how to reach Freedom, how to reach Happiness, how to find God, how to know God. This sense of identity present in us is a sense present due to thought, feeling, sensation and perception of the background of psychological conditioning. This is something present due to a model, a model of being, something created and sustained by this thinking, feeling and perceiving. This is something that is present, Gilson, because we lack the Vision of the Reality of That which we truly are.
This is something possible in this life. See, what we call “life,” what I just put here as “this life,” is something that consists of a dream, a dream happening for this sense of this illusory “I,” which sees itself separated from Real Life, which is God. The end of this particular life, which is the life of the “I,” is the end of this dream. Here, in this life, or in this existence, becoming aware of Real Life and putting an end to this “particular life” is the only thing that matters. It is only in this sense that we use the expression “Enlightenment” or “Awakening” here – Awakening of Consciousness or Spiritual Enlightenment – it is in the sense of this Truth revealing itself, this Truth of your Being. So, the question “how to know God?” requires the Revelation of God. It is God revealing Himself in Him, through Him and for Him, here and now.
Perhaps you ask: “So, what can we do in this direction?” We need to work. Something, in fact, is necessary. See, work will not be the determining factor, but this work is part of the movement of this Divine Grace itself, so that this body and mind can undergo a transformation. See, Gilson, we need a change in this body and mind, we have also talked a lot about this on the channel. This change is the Flourishing of this Divine Presence, something that is present in each one of us, but that has not yet flourished, because the psychological condition in which we find ourselves is one of complete ignorance concerning the movement of this egoic consciousness, of this consciousness of the “I.”
The flourishing of this Natural Divine State... There are many names for this Flourishing: it is Spiritual Awakening, it is Spiritual Enlightenment, it is Kundalini Awakening ... And, here, the expression “Kundalini” ... It is important to say this here too: there is a huge fantasy about and around this expression “Kundalini.” It is not in the sense that most people use this expression out there that we use this expression here. According to Ramana Maharshi himself, the word “Kundalini” is another word for “God.” He said: “Being, Consciousness” – and, here, He refers to this Real Consciousness, as we have spoken a lot about here on the channel: Being, Consciousness, God and Kundalini –, He said, “these are different words pointing to the same Reality.” So, this Flourishing of your Natural State requires a change in this body and in this mind, it is when this Flourishing happens that this Revelation of God reveals itself.
Therefore, Gilson, knowing God is the Reality of God in expression, when there is a complete emptying of all this content, which is the illusory content; when there is a complete emptying of all this content, which is the content that gives rise to this ego-identity, the continuity of an entity present in this illusion of time, in this psychological notion of movement in space. Notice what an interesting thing here! There is chronological time, which is the time that we see determining the days, the months, the years – it is the time that we follow on the clock, this is chronological time –, and there is space; between one object and another, there is a space. So, in this dream of the world, of life, where this Divine Life is, there is the presence of this chronological time and this physical space, where this entire phenomenon of dream, of the divine world, happens. But, apart from this psychological time and this physical space, we have a space created by the sense of the ego and we have a time created by the sense of the ego.
See how we have to study this, understand this within ourselves, in order to have this Awareness of God's Revelation. This psychological time is a time that thought has been constructed. The notion that you are someone who came from the past, is living this moment and moving towards the future, notice, this is an example of a time that is constructed by thought, because there is no such thing as the past, from a psychological point of view, nor the present, nor the future. Past, present and future, for this “me,” for this “I,” for this person, is an illusion, because this person, this “I,” this “me,” is just a set of thoughts. So, it is thought that creates the illusion of a present identity, which is the “I,” and this notion of a time where this “I” is living.
When you use the expressions “I was,” “I am” and “I will be,” you are dealing with this psychological time. The notion of having existed, of existing and of will exist as “someone” is an illusion created by this psychological time, and this psychological time is a foundation for the model of thought. Thus, thought creates psychological time. It is time that tells us about the past, it is time that tells us about the present and it is time that tells us about the future. It imagines the future; it also brings the past to this moment based on an affirmation of memory, which here and now, at this moment, is also just a belief, an imagination. There is no truth here, at this moment, for the past, except for imagination, just as there is no truth here and now for the future, except for imagination.
All of this is a construct, Gilson, of thought in this psychological time, which needs to disappear so that Life can reveal itself here and now, without this illusion of the “I,” which needs this time to stay alive. This “I” is the ego and it creates a space, an illusory space, between the one who observes and that which is being observed, between the one who feels something and that which is being felt, between the one who thinks and thought. There is an interval, there is a space, also created by thought and, therefore, created by this ego-identity. Here, we are working with you on the end of this illusion, this notion of time and space established by this ego-identity. This issue of space is something interesting. We cannot go into it deeper here, but space is this interval between the center and the periphery, between the observer and that which is observed. It creates a space that does not exist, because this center is this periphery, this observer is the thing observed itself. Space is an illusion! The thinker is thought, so there is no such thing as this space.
We have been working on this on the channel. We have several videos delving into this issue of the illusion of this psychological time, where this illusory identity is established, and presenting to you the illusion of this time where the ego moves. The very movement of the ego, in this time – past, present and future – requires the space it forms, requires the time it creates. So, how can we know God? Going beyond this illusion of this sense of a present “I”, which sees itself apart and separate from life, sees itself as someone in the experience of living.
Gilson, work is necessary in this life for this Realization. So, the work happens and, due to this mysterious Divine Presence, which is Grace, something is revealed. It is by Divine Grace that we are sharing this Reality of God with you today. See, it is God who reveals himself, it is God who shows himself, it is God who presents himself!
An invitation from Grace to this work is Grace itself working with you for this Realization. It is not your work that accomplishes this, it is the work of Grace itself, happening in you, that makes this possible: God revealing himself, ending this illusion of this psychological time, where there is the illusory idea of reaching God, of coming to God, of realizing God in the future. There is no future, just as there is no past. Reality is here now, and the work is happening right now, for this Revelation, at this moment, of That which is outside of time, outside of this time in this dream of material existence – where we have this physical space and this chronological time –, and outside of this psychological time and this space also created by thought to maintain its continuity. So, when this ends, the Reality of God is present. The detail is that this work is now, and the end of all this is also now! Here, we are proposing to you a new approach regarding all this. We need to discard everything that we have received as formation of beliefs, concepts, ideas regarding the Divine Truth, because it is not through theoretical, conceptual or bookish knowledge that this occurs, that this happens.
GC: Master, we have a question from a subscriber here on the channel. He makes the following comment and asks: “I have a question about the phrase ‘I and the Father are one’. Who is this ‘I’? Thank you very much.”
MG: So, notice, Gilson, the expression “I and the Father are one” ... Who is this “I”? Notice, once again, here we are faced with words. This is where we have to take very slow and cautious steps, because we are treading on dangerous ground. See, that's right, the ground of ideas, the ground of words, theories, beliefs, is dangerous ground. It's like stepping on quicksand: if you step on quicksand, you can sink and even lose your life there, because it is dangerous ground. Here, ideas, concepts, beliefs, words mean nothing. We can get stuck in these words, stuck in this sand, and we can be suffocated by these words. We need to discover, Gilson, the Truth of That which we are, and that is not within words. We need direct contact with the Reality of That which we are, or intellectually we will end up theorizing about this subject.
When you ask “what is this ‘I’?” or “what did Jesus mean by that expression?” ... Here, we need to become aware of Reality in a direct way. It is not about making interpretations or maintaining verbal explanations or words to explain other words. I see people, Gilson, stuck, literally stuck, to words, concepts, ideas, beliefs. We need to go beyond the mind, therefore, beyond thoughts, beyond words; it is only when, directly, the Awareness of Revelation is present. So, a theoretical, verbal, conceptual explanation... In general, most people are content with that, until a moment comes when they realize that there is no point in living by concepts, theories, ideas, beliefs.
Our urgent need is to become aware of Reality directly, something that becomes possible when you discover how to approach this “learning” about yourself, which is to look at this movement of the “I” itself and go beyond it. There are no words, concepts or theories that can help us with that. What we need to do is discover directly what it means to learn to become aware of these reactions, abandoning the illusion of separation between this “I” and the “non-I,” between this observer and that which one observes, between this thought that arises and this thinker that appears, between this feeling and this “me,” this “I,” this one involved in the feeling. Thus, becoming aware of oneself is studying oneself. Then, yes, we can be a direct response to the Reality of That which is outside the very expression or word “I.” There is something, yes, beyond all of this, but it is indescribable, it is beyond words, it is beyond thoughts.
GC: Master, we have another question here, from a subscriber on the channel. The question is the following: “Master, I have always studied the scriptures to get closer to God, but now I am in doubt. Should I study or not?”
MG: So, Gilson, here we have another question, but notice how it is connected to the first one. What we need, Gilson, is to become aware of That which we are, to understand ourselves. We can, intellectually, verbally, through studies, we can acquire a great ability to explain the scriptures, to understand the words there, to teach others, to have a great theoretical understanding of this, and, however, this will not change absolutely anything regarding a direct contact with this Reality, because the intellect, no matter how well refined or capable it is, no matter how great its ability, is something under a limitation.
The Truth, Gilson, is not revealed at the intellectual level; It is something experiential! At the intellectual level, Gilson, we can have a great understanding of things, but this understanding at the intellectual level is not Real Comprehension. The Truth of Comprehension is experiential, direct, only then is That Real. So, we need to study, yes; not books, but studying ourselves, becoming aware of envy here, of fear here, of the conflict that desires cause here, of ambition, jealousy, anger, of how the movement of thought works here, producing these and many other internal states of suffering, contradiction, conflict, and various problems; becoming aware of our reactions, going beyond this sense of “I,” of the ego, in this moment, here. This requires this “studying” of ourselves, becoming aware of how we function.
Divine Truth is the Reality of our Being. The intellect cannot reach That. In this awareness of the very movement of the “I,” of the ego, of this illusory identity, through Self-awareness, we have a clear vision, and through the awareness of the revelation of Meditation, this Reality of our Being reveals itself, and this sense of ego-identity is undone. But I want to put this here again for you: we can read a lot, and for a long time, and intellectually know all of this, even to the point of teaching others the theory, the concept, the words, but this will not change anything at all, because this remains at the intellectual level. We need to become aware of Reality. The Awareness of Reality is Comprehension.
I have always illustrated it like this: it is like having the recipe for the cake and knowing everything we need to make that cake, because everything is already here in the recipe, step by step. While you have the recipe, there is someone eating the cake. So, either you get involved with the recipe, or you eat the cake. The Reality of your Being is to eat the cake. Intellectually, at most, all you can do is read recipes and intellectually try, through the words, to understand how to make the cake. There is a way for us to have direct access to this cake. The thing is that this cake is not made by someone else, it is already ready, and no recipe can truly give you the step-by-step instructions for this type of cake we are talking about, which is the Reality of your Being, which is here and now, ready.
GC: Master, thank you! Our time is now over. Thank you for this videocast.
And for you who are watching the video until the end, if you have a real, sincere yearning to get closer to God, to know God, to understand what is beyond words, beyond thoughts, we invite you to participate in the meetings that Master Gualberto provides. The Master, by the Grace of his Master, has already attained this so-called “Spiritual Awakening” or “Spiritual Enlightenment” and, in these Satsang encounters – which is the name of the encounters, which are online meetings, there are also in-person meetings and even retreats) – in these meetings, the Master, in addition to answering our questions, shares this Presence, this Awakened State of Consciousness, and, in this sharing of Presence, we end up being able to take a ride on this Silence of the Master, this Grace of the Master. And this helps us a lot in this understanding of ourselves, in this experience of what is beyond words. So, here is the invitation. In the first comment, pinned, there is the WhatsApp link to be able to participate in these meetings.
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