Gilson – Hello, everyone, we're here for another videocast. Once again, Master Gualberto has kindly joined us so that we can bring questions that you ask and also read an excerpt from one of Joel Goldsmith's books. Thank you for this opportunity, Master.
Master, today I'm going to read an excerpt from the book “Consciousness is What I Am” by Joel Goldsmith. In this book, in a passage talking about the “Spiritual Warehouse,” Joel says the following: “Knowing the Truth of the Infinite Warehouse within, we can extract from Consciousness not only all that is necessary for our particular development, but twelve full baskets left over to share.” Master, could you talk a little more about this?
Master Gualberto – So, Gilson, there is a concern there. In general, it's something very common, it's a general concern of many, the belief that the Divine approach or this approach to God must necessarily come with the end of all life's complications. This seems very reasonable, especially because Jesus said: “Seek first the Kingdom of God and all other things will be added to you.” But I'd like us to be a bit more careful with this approach, because when Truth is revealed, it's the end to suffering, but in general, people see suffering as the absence of, perhaps, material aspects in their lives; so if we lack something materially, we are in suffering, whereas, in fact, when the Reality of God approaches or when there is this Truth of God revealing itself, the end to suffering is the end of the illusion of this sense of an “I” that separates itself from life, that separates itself from the other, that separates itself from God. It is the end of psychological suffering. Naturally, aspects of physical suffering also disappear, but we have to be careful here.
In general, people are looking for what God has to give them and not what God IS. So, we need, Gilson, to understand that the Truth of your Being, which is Divine Truth, is the end to suffering and, of course, the Source of all provision. But we can't start with the external aspect, we can't look outwards and expect external situations to be resolved before this attention that we need to give to all this internal suffering within each one of us.
So, this search or quest for external provision is a mistake, it's a misunderstanding, it's a deception. What matters here is understanding the Truth of your Being, That is everything, That is all. Here, we are working with you, showing you that the Divine approach is the end of this sense of a present egoic identity, so all the work here, in this encounter with the Kingdom of God, is not an encounter with external provision, with external miracles, but it is an encounter with the end of this sense of a present ego that sees itself separate from the Source, that sees itself separate from God. That's why our emphasis here, Gilson, is always on investigating the nature of the “I,” the nature of the ego, the nature of this sense of separation. This sense of separate identity is that which is depressed, which is anxious, which is distressed, which is in fear, which is in all forms of psychological suffering and unhappiness, which doesn't understand the very movement of the mind that represents those movements of thoughts that lead us to action.
Without understanding the movement of the mind, which is the movement of thoughts within us, all our actions will be egocentric actions, centered on an illusory identity, and naturally producing suffering for ourselves and for others. So, that's what we have to investigate, that's what we have to get rid of. As for this Divine Truth being complete provision, that's not for the “I,” it's for the ego. Our heart needs to be turned towards the Realization of What we are for the acknowledgment of the Truth of our Being. So, our emphasis cannot be on the external aspect, of miracles, of provision, of manifestations. We have to look at this movement of the “I,” which is this movement of the ego, which is this movement of the restless mind producing thoughts and leading us to behaviors and positions in living that are positions of egocentric activities. This is what we have to get rid of, this is what we have to look at, this is what we have to discard; and this is an action of the Presence itself, of Grace itself. So, the greatest wealth, the greatest provision is to assume the Truth of your Being. As for the other things, Truth – the Divine, the Reality of this Being that is this Consciousness that we already are – takes care of everything.
I've seen people so worried about external results or seeking external achievements, wanting to see God's hands at work rather than God's Truth. So, the work here, Gilson, consists of making ourselves aware of this Revelation of this Being. Everything that is necessary appears, arises, but you don't have to put a single thought into it, nor a single idea into it, nor a single purpose into it. Nothing needs to be done if you are in your Natural State of Pure Being, which is this God Consciousness. So, there's no room in the mind to be preoccupied with concerns, with external occupations, with external achievements, because everything happens naturally. Without a sense of “I” present, life is Harmony, Beauty, Grace, Fullness, and Provision, it's everything that is needed when it is needed at the moment, and you're not there. Your “I,” your ego isn't investing in accomplishing this or accomplishing that, changing this or changing that, everything happens naturally. So here the great secret lies in allowing yourself to Be, in not resisting life as it is, in assuming the Truth of your Divine Nature, free from this sense of an “I” that is occupied, worried, that wants to alter, wants to change, wants to do, wants to get rid of, and so on. That's it.
Gilson – Master, the “becoming” is very strong in this identity of “someone” present, isn't it? To “become” more financially prosperous in order to be happy or achieve this or achieve that, and in proximity to the Master, I see that there is no desire for this. Now, one point, Master, about this desire of this identity, this false idea of being “someone,” that is always projecting a “coming to be,” as the Master always says, that is always running away from this pain of being “someone,” so one keeps projecting oneself. Can you talk a bit about this?
Master Gualberto – What happens in the ego is that we transfer happiness into an external achievement. We place a label called happiness on a particular external achievement or external accomplishment, and we set out to pursue it. So, for us, happiness is in the future, somewhere, in some condition, in some dream, in some project, in an encounter with someone, with something, it's always something outside. The basic idea is: there is always something on the outside to be accomplished, to be achieved so that here “I” can feel complete. What we don't realize is that this sense of an “I” is incompleteness. Everything is already here and now. There is nothing out there to be achieved with the name of happiness, with the name of love, with the name of peace, with the name of freedom, with the name of God. This is not out there; this is not in that space between “me” and what is there. So, this movement in time doesn't exist, it's a projection of the ego itself.
The ego has created this element, which is the time element; it has created this element in order to achieve something there, so it has created the time element and the space element. The space is between “me” and that given thing that will make me happy, the perfect love, the perfect dream, the perfect happiness, the perfect achievement, Enlightenment, the perfect meeting with God. All of that is imagination of thought, so there is this separation between “me” and that other thing. Thought also created space, because if there is a distance, there is that space, there is a time that is needed to get from here to there. So, the ego created this “becoming,” this “reaching,” this “coming to be” and all of this is within the illusion of the “I” itself, of the ego itself, of the movement itself, Gilson, of thought, because thought is the root of it all. It is thought that formulates, with its image, an ideal, something. Thought is that in us which comes from the past as a memory, a recollection, an image, is here and now, and is projecting itself forward in this sense of “I” in order to get rid of something or to achieve something. This is how this sense of ego perpetuates itself over time.
Approaching Self-awareness is the end of this time that thought constructs, it is the end of this space that thought constructs, it is the end of this illusory happiness, peace, dream, and Enlightenment that thought is constructing. The awareness of the Truth of your Being is Completeness, it is Fullness, it is Divine Truth. This is present when the egoic mind is no more, when the sense of an “I” is no longer present, then there is no more past, present, or future. That which is this Reality here and now shows itself as Completeness, as Love, as Happiness, as Peace, so it's a matter of realizing this Truth now, and this requires the work of verifying illusion, which is Self-awareness, and realizing Reality, which is Meditation, True Meditation.
Gilson – Master, even on this subject, we have a question here from Alê. He asked the following question: “Regarding the pleasure that human beings seek, such as money to own things, the search for an affective and sexual partner, does this end for a Realized Being or not necessarily? Seeing Ramana [Maharshi], he didn't seem concerned about it, just wearing the kind of 'diaper' I see in the photos; money made no difference to him. Thank you!”
Master Gualberto – When there is this Realization, the Truth of this Realization is the end of the sense of a present identity. This present identity is this sense of an “I” that always carries some kind of dissatisfaction. With the end of the “I” – let's put it very straight for you – dissatisfaction disappears along with it, so there is no more projection of the future. So, we can list many things in the future: health, money, prestige, fame, relationships; we either project things into the future or we project ourselves to be free, in the future, from things we already have, because of dissatisfaction. There are things to be achieved and things we want to get rid of, all because of this “I” in its dissatisfaction. With Realization, all this disappears.
The sense of an “I,” of an egoic identity, is the sense of a dissatisfied existence. The nature of the egoic mind is dissatisfaction, it will never be happy. So, when we use the expression “human being,” we are talking about a Being. Being is Consciousness, Happiness, it is not a “human being.” Your True Nature is the Nature of God, which is Happiness, that is Completeness, that is the absence of dissatisfaction. So, the model we have of this so-called “human being” is a dissatisfied being, it's an unhappy being, it's a being that doesn't know his Real Nature, it's a being that doesn't know his Real Identity, which is Divine Identity. In fact, the only Identity in all manifestation is God, only He is a Real Identity, there is only Him, and when He is present, this sense of an identity that separates itself in experience is no longer present. So, the Truth of your Being is Happiness. I want to repeat: it is Consciousness, it is Pure Being, and That is Completeness.
Now, the external aspects around a Realized Being, this is where we have to approach carefully. In the ego, in the “I,” in that sense of “being” still a “human,” the mind doesn't know what it's about, it can't reach it. So, you can't measure a Realized Being by the external aspect of his or her appearance or what seems to exist outside, around him or her, because that view will be a view based on a preconceived concept of the ego, that a Realized Being has to dress like Ramana, that's not true; he or she can’t touch money, as Ramakrishna did, that's not true. We end up creating external criteria for this Being who is outside the world, who is outside this dream of relationships with people, situations, objects, pleasure, and pain. We can't measure that. So, this is where I found an error in the question you asked. “Oh, I see Ramana with a...” And when you look at a Realized Being like Osho, who dressed completely differently from Ramana, how is that to you? Who is Realized and who is not? By what criteria can you tell whether a person is Realized or not? Is it from an external view of what is happening around them? Let's be careful with that.
The point here is not to look at who Osho was, who Ramana was, how Ramana dressed, how Osho dressed, what the life of “A,” “B” or “C” was like, who, in your belief, was Realized. In fact, Gilson, believing that someone was Realized because of the clothes they wore is a mistake, because of the external quality of life they had is a mistake. What matters here is that you discover the Truth of your Being.
A Realized Being is unique and has a very unique form of presentation and expression in life, in existence, and yet the Real State is the State of the Buddha, it's the State of Christ, it's the State of Ramana Maharshi, it's the State of a Realized Being. So, it is not that way, that's not the criterion. We just have to be careful with that. No, don't make comparisons, don't evaluate based on thought. You have to go beyond this very sense of an “I” that separates itself from experience, go beyond your own ego so that you can actually recognize a Realized Being. You know, recognize a Realized Being not by what he appears to be or have, but by what he IS, and you only recognize him in what he IS when you recognize yourself as being that same Reality. A Realized Being recognizes another, an unrealized one speculates, believes, has ideas, has beliefs, and all this is very delicate, because you can move away from the opportunity of a Realized Being by judging them by your criteria, by the criteria you have about how a Realized Being is or how he is not a Realized Being – all this is completely false.
Gilson – Master, it's amazing how there are no parameters for what it means to be a Realized Being. So, within the ego, within this idea, we have infinite beliefs, isn't it? Infinite beliefs: dress this way, dress that way. Is there any common ground, Master, in this perception? Bringing my example, bringing my experience with the Master, within this look of the Master, in this Darshan, soon this True Meditation happens, this “State,” a “State” of stillness, of silence where the mind disappears. That would be Darshan – which the Master has already talked about – a way of being able to see and be seen – which is Darshan – a way of perceiving a Realized Being? I don't know if I've made myself clear, Master.
Master Gualberto – The most accurate way of recognizing that you are in front of a Realized Being is what he causes when you are in front of his Presence. If you can be in front of a Being and the vision of Something outside of the known, outside of time and outside of this sense of separation, when you are in front of him and something on this level occurs, if your mind quiets down, if your brain quiets down and there is this absence of this movement of past, present and future, of identity that separates in this instant of living, this can be a classic sign that you are in front of a Realized Being. In fact, for you to feel this, you can only be having a Revelation of your own Being. This is in itself the recognition of the Presence of Grace, which is the Presence of God. So, at that moment, the sense of separation between you and Grace in that form disappears. This is a very simple way of having this recognition that we are facing Grace itself in a form, because a Realized Being, this sense of separation between you and him dissolves when at some point there is this Power of Presence being shared, this Power of Consciousness being shared, this “ride” happening.
In India, they call it Darshan, it's seeing and being seen, it's being in front of a sight that is free of this sense of “I,” of the ego, and a Realized Being has this very clear in his eyes, his look carries Something that is outside the known, that is outside this sense of an “I,” that is outside this search in time, which is the search for love, for happiness, for peace, this search of the “I” for something. That which is present is already Meditation. When you come across a Realized Being, the presence of his Silence puts you in that state, which is your Natural State of Meditation. Especially at certain moments, he directs his eyes towards you and this glance is full of this Grace, full of this Presence, which completely sweeps away the sense of a present identity full of ideas, concepts, and beliefs – within spirituality or outside of spirituality – stuck in the political world, the philosophical world, the psychological world, or the business world. All this disappears and there is a complete emptying of this sense of egoic identity. So, he has an ease in communicating this State of Meditation to you, because this is his State. In fact, this is the Natural State he is in, his mind is quiet, there's a glimpse of this new Something. It's not what he says, it's not basically the way he speaks, it's the Presence, it's the Power, it's the Perfume, it's that mysterious Truth in the Power of his communication that gives you that vision.
So, when you're in Satsang, the invitation is to immerse yourself in that state. The Presence of Satsang, which is this encounter with Truth, is an invitation to recognize this instant of absence of psychological time, of absence of this sense of an “I,” it is the recognition of your Natural State, which is Meditation. This happens a lot, Gilson, very naturally, and you don't do anything. In fact, you discover how to be still, because the power of this Grace quiets you. It's something that is shared with you by the Presence itself, so all this disorder, this confusion, all this known movement of the mind is as if completely swept away at that moment. This is the contact with the one who is living this Natural State of Being. That's it.
Gilson – Master, gratitude, gratitude! Our time has ended. I would like to invite you, who are watching this video and by looking into the Master's eyes have been able to feel that which is beyond words, that Something that is challenging to express in words, but it is Something different, and in Satsang you have the opportunity to go deeper and, in this dive, take a “ride” with he Master to really perceive what this life is, this complete Freedom. So, here's the invitation: in the first comment, you'll find the link to the WhatsApp group for information about Satsangs. There are online Satsangs where this happens and also in face-to-face meetings. Also, please, give us a like and leave a comment, as this helps YouTube recognize that the content is relevant. Master, thank you for this videocast. See you next time!
Master Gualberto – Ok, see you next time!
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